TMA DHC-6 has a very hard landing during a training flight

[Cat Driver]

I used to think that the saun.j's in these forums were nothing but irritating parasites, however I have changed my mind and now believe they have a useful function here.

They are living examples of the type of know it all air heads that every young pilot to be should never imitate.

Unfortunately for aviation this type will probably end up instructing and then moving on into the T.C. flight training department and the idiot curve goes even further downward.

[iflyforpie]

what T.O. operator using cap floats trains the flap less landing these days?

I can't speak for many other operators, but Westcoast Air for sure does. Even co-pilots are trained for it.

Flapless landings are a basic certification requirement.

http://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/civilaviation/r ... tm#523_143

[Dhc6to8]

I feel sorry for those guys, shit happens and hopefully they will learn from it. I am wondering though if the spreader bar pins failed... The Maldivians are to be respected, I have met many skilled and professional Maldivian crews during my three rotations down there... and, to be honest and fair, there are always going to be a few weak sisters in the bunch and some of the weakest skills were also from Europe and Canada/America... not just Maldivian.
The flapless landing on CAP floats were a briefing item during PPC renewal... however, if the aircraft was equiped with Whips then the flapless landing could be trained.
As Ken Simkins (MAT Chief Pilot) once stated: The operating environment in the Maldives is challenging, and regardless of who sits up front, incidents and accidents will happen... just try to make sure it is not you holding the buck when the music stops....
I hope that TMA will be able to salvage the machine!
fly safe brethern
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post edit: I blew a spreader bar pin apart (on CAPS) once landing in heavy water up in the QCIs up at Langara many years ago... we used a 'come along' to ratchet the floats together and a steel tool to hold the bar in place until the engineers could be flown in to repair her... if memory serves me well it was the famous -NTA... I am just glad that we never ended up like the pictured TMA aircraft!

[Rudder Bug]

sj pardon my french but, your a sphincter muscle.

Even Sphinct Air wouldn't hire him

[Sulako]

sean.j has been removed from the forums, just fyi.

[Dhc6to8]

Since we are on the topic of Twin Otters on floats... and Sean J is history.... I often wondered if TMA is sending their Otters anywhere for rebuild, refurbishment, realignment etc and how their corrosion prevention program is set up? I ask this because I ferried numerous Otters to and from the Maldives for Borek back in the day.... and when Uncle Kenny's boys were finished with them in YYC they were as good as new.... also, is MAT/TMA contracting Borek or Altenrhein Aviation for overhaul? The salt water environment is very hard on these machines as well as the landings and takeoffs on heavy water... if anybody could shed any light on what set up these companies have now I would appreciate it!
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[pilotwhoisneverhome]

"The TWO MAT crashes which thankfully didnt result in any injuries were both Maldivian crews."----

Actually 8Q-MAS had one Maldivian crew member and one Canadian.