LOT 767 gear up landing Nice job
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LOT 767 gear up landing Nice job
http://www.lematin.ch/faits-divers/polo ... 2011-11-01
It is in French but you can see somme pictures and an amazing video.
Nicely done guys...
It is in French but you can see somme pictures and an amazing video.
Nicely done guys...
Re: LOT 767 gear up landing Nice job
Nice short video of the touchdown on youtube here..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cb9vcpbSX0k
Well done crew!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cb9vcpbSX0k
Well done crew!
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What's the big deal? Navajo drivers have been doing that for ages. Of course these guys knew in advance, our Navajo folks just "wing" it.....
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What would happen next in a situation like this? Does the airframe get written off?
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Na.
Looks like a really good lannding. A few weeks in the shop and she'll be good as new.
Looks like a really good lannding. A few weeks in the shop and she'll be good as new.
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It sure does look like a great job!
But, at the risk of sounding smug and not to take anything away from this crew, despite the 'beautiful' landing and lack of injury, I wonder (as I'm sure the flightcrew are) why the manual gear extension didn't work??? (assuming they tried that, of course)
"After noticing a central (center?) hydraulic system failure the standard procedure for emergency landings at Warsaw airport were implemented," said the carrier.
Electrical system failure??
Ought to be interesting.
Amazing job!!
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But, at the risk of sounding smug and not to take anything away from this crew, despite the 'beautiful' landing and lack of injury, I wonder (as I'm sure the flightcrew are) why the manual gear extension didn't work??? (assuming they tried that, of course)
"After noticing a central (center?) hydraulic system failure the standard procedure for emergency landings at Warsaw airport were implemented," said the carrier.
Electrical system failure??
Ought to be interesting.
Amazing job!!
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There are also two very nice pictures on Airliners.net
http://www.airliners.net/photo/LOT---Po ... 2006912/L/
http://www.airliners.net/photo/LOT---Po ... 2006892/L/
http://www.airliners.net/photo/LOT---Po ... 2006912/L/
http://www.airliners.net/photo/LOT---Po ... 2006892/L/
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Re: LOT 767 gear up landing Nice job
You have to remember there is a check list for this -- while hands and feet do play a part they had the script right down to the last detail --
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Re: LOT 767 gear up landing Nice job
True, no big deal landing a 767 with the gear up. Common procedure for most of us.Doc wrote:What's the big deal? Navajo drivers have been doing that for ages. Of course these guys knew in advance, our Navajo folks just "wing" it.....
I remember there was a topic recently about emergency procedures killing people. Sometimes you need to think outside the "checklist" ? Not 100% sure though.Liquid Charlie wrote:You have to remember there is a check list for this -- while hands and feet do play a part they had the script right down to the last detail --
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There has been little in the way of explanation for the reason for the gear being up, do they propose to say that every redundency was unserviceable, along with the normal landing gear extension mechanism??
Re: LOT 767 gear up landing Nice job
Looks like they forgot to check the circuit breakers for the alternate gear extension system:
Would checking the breakers be part of a checklist in a scenario like this?
http://avherald.com/h?article=4456bd6b/0005&opt=0About 15-20 minutes after the end of the evacuation the first members of PKBWL arrived at the scene and found the "C829 BAT BUS DISTR" circuit breaker on the P6 panel was in the popped position, the "C4248 LANDING GEAR - ALTN EXT MOTOR" circuit breaker was in the closed position. The recordings of cockpit voice recorder and flight data recorder were secured.
Circuit breaker C829 protects a number of systems including the alternate landing gear extension system. It's position was not recorded or indicated by any aircraft system.
After the aircraft was lifted off the runway, the circuit breaker C829 was closed, then the alternate landing gear extension was activated and successfully extended the landing gear, so that the aircraft could be towed to the airline's maintenance hangar.
Would checking the breakers be part of a checklist in a scenario like this?
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Checking the breakers is considered good airmanship, and is usually included in the pre-amble to SOP's or the QRH/NNC section.Lowjack wrote:Would checking the breakers be part of a checklist in a scenario like this?
That being said, one thing not mentioned/known yet, is when the breaker popped. It is possible that the breaker popped as a result of the attempted alternate gear extension, or during/after the belly landing. The crew may have done a reset, and had it re-pop. The CVR will tell more of the story, and that info has not been released yet.
Don't forget the Capt had 16K hours with 14K hours PIC and 20 years flying Boeings...
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Please remind all of the AvCanada - Battle of Britain - Saint- "Pilots", who lecture everyone at any possible chance, that this is indeed a reality. That the fellow had 16,000 hours with 14,000 PIC most of which was on a heavy jet! !!!Donald wrote:Checking the breakers is considered good airmanship, and is usually included in the pre-amble to SOP's or the QRH/NNC section.Lowjack wrote:Would checking the breakers be part of a checklist in a scenario like this?
That being said, one thing not mentioned/known yet, is when the breaker popped. It is possible that the breaker popped as a result of the attempted alternate gear extension, or during/after the belly landing. The crew may have done a reset, and had it re-pop. The CVR will tell more of the story, and that info has not been released yet.
Don't forget the Capt had 16K hours with 14K hours PIC and 20 years flying Boeings...