ERJ skids off rwy in ROC

[flyincanuck]

A "United Airlines" flight (...right)

No injuries.

http://www.13wham.com/news/local/story/ ... uyA8w.cspx

[linecrew]

...again??

[Canoehead]

Yep- "Trans States" (aka Waterski).
It is amazing that an airline of that size (only about 25-30 airplanes) spends so much of it's time hauling their airplanes out of the grass.

One of 2 possibilities:

1) Crew inexperience (and all that goes with it: fatigue/aircraft capabilities/personal capabilities etc...)
or
2) That airplane model has some stopping problems.

At any rate, the United/Continental BOD should be so proud to have such a stellar CPA carrier flying around their passengers with such an impeccable safety record. I hope they got a deal

[linecrew]

2) That airplane model has some stopping problems.

They have a few models that don't have reverse...hence the lack of stop-ability on occasion like these two experienced in Ottawa over the past year or so. First one was repaired by grafting a new nose onto it while the second one was written off and eventually cut up.

[fish4life]

does the ERJ have reverse thrust? perhaps that is why they also tend to go off contaminated runways more often

edit: well that answers my question perhaps the extra weight of reverse thrust will pay for itself quickly by not sending planes off the end of runways

[chinglish]

An American Eagle pilot that I talked to told me that their ERJ's don't have reverse. Every time I've flown on an ERJ I couldn't hear any reverse and felt hard braking. It's probably a hard aircraft to stop for a low time pilot?

[flyincanuck]

Reverse isn't that important. Most carriers encourage idle reverse for fuel savings (Beta for props).

Spoilers, however, can be a game changer.