Jazz or CargoJet?

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Re: Jazz or CargoJet?

Post by eyebrow737 » Fri Sep 07, 2018 11:46 am

Picesprick wrote:
Fri Sep 07, 2018 9:29 am
:roll: :roll: Any other life tips on what I should or shouldn't do.

Maybe he was curious as to how fancy he could live on the road, I think ppl know perdiems are not income.
That wasn't aimed at you. You know as well as I do many people view per diem as extra bonus money on top of their salary.

Don't be so sensitive. There's your life tip.
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Re: Jazz or CargoJet?

Post by Picesprick » Sat Sep 08, 2018 7:11 am

eyebrow737 wrote:
Fri Sep 07, 2018 11:46 am
Picesprick wrote:
Fri Sep 07, 2018 9:29 am
:roll: :roll: Any other life tips on what I should or shouldn't do.

Maybe he was curious as to how fancy he could live on the road, I think ppl know perdiems are not income.
That wasn't aimed at you. You know as well as I do many people view per diem as extra bonus money on top of their salary.

Don't be so sensitive. There's your life tip.
:lol: Noted, thanks, maybe I was a little grumpy yesterday, night flying does that to you.
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Re: Jazz or CargoJet?

Post by Julien31130 » Sat Sep 08, 2018 7:56 am

Hi everyone,

I would like to know if your family's members can also jumpseat on Cargojet's airplanes to travel or it's only for employees? Also about commuting, is it possible to have blocks of days off so you can come back home or it's only 2,3 days off in a row.

Thanks for your infos !
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Re: Jazz or CargoJet?

Post by GATRKGA » Sat Sep 08, 2018 9:00 am

Per diems is not salary. Just in case someone thought that’s why I was asking. Just seemed like 20k in per diems was a hefty amount.

Lots of cargojet Guys hired at sky regional in the last 12 months. They seem to not have liked it so much. Sounds like the flying gig could have been great if it weren’t for the company politics and old boys club mentality that seemingly exists.

Can you touch on that a bit? What are some of the more negative aspects of Cargojet?
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Re: Jazz or CargoJet?

Post by Picesprick » Sat Sep 08, 2018 11:32 am

GATRKGA wrote:
Sat Sep 08, 2018 9:00 am
Per diems is not salary. Just in case someone thought that’s why I was asking. Just seemed like 20k in per diems was a hefty amount.

Lots of cargojet Guys hired at sky regional in the last 12 months. They seem to not have liked it so much. Sounds like the flying gig could have been great if it weren’t for the company politics and old boys club mentality that seemingly exists.

Can you touch on that a bit? What are some of the more negative aspects of Cargojet?
I dont know about that, seems like a very professional atmosphere. CP is a great guy, training is very thorough. Not sure what those folks are referring to. I havent heard of any 67/57 guys or gals leaving for skyregional, was mostly the other way around from what I thought. Maybe some 27 fos or or sos, that aircraft might have some old boys club mentality but they are down to 1 airplane and it is a finished in Jan 19.
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Re: Jazz or CargoJet?

Post by Julien31130 » Sat Sep 08, 2018 12:07 pm

Hi everyone,

I would like to know if your family's members can jumpseat also on company's airplanes to travel or it's only for employees? Also about commuting, is it possible to have blocks of days off so you can come back home or it's only 2,3 days off in a row.

Thanks for your infos !
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Re: Jazz or CargoJet?

Post by GATRKGA » Sat Sep 08, 2018 10:07 pm

Yes those complaints were from 727 Second Officers or First Officers. I don't think there are any 767/757 First Officer's that came to Sky Regional, you're right. Thanks for clarifying that. Sounds not too bad on the 767/757 side of things.
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Re: Jazz or CargoJet?

Post by Picesprick » Mon Sep 10, 2018 11:02 am

Julien31130 wrote:
Sat Sep 08, 2018 12:07 pm
Hi everyone,

I would like to know if your family's members can jumpseat also on company's airplanes to travel or it's only for employees? Also about commuting, is it possible to have blocks of days off so you can come back home or it's only 2,3 days off in a row.

Thanks for your infos !
People do commute from ywg and yhz, wouldn't be for me and might be tough on a Jr schedule. Even for the more senior folks bidding set pairings is tough due to the poor quality bidding system cuttently in place. You get the bid package, submit your bids and get what you get, there is no feedback from system about likelihood of getting what you want, you can't see what other people have been awarded, so trades are a tricky. Then crew sched gets in there to maximize the efficiency with no real oversight and you can see why it makes things difficult.
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Re: Jazz or CargoJet?

Post by GATRKGA » Mon Nov 26, 2018 11:40 pm

Did the myid travel thing get sorted out?

Who can you js on these days as a Cargojet pilot?

Westjet? AC? Transat? United?

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Re: Jazz or CargoJet?

Post by Duukar » Wed Dec 05, 2018 3:40 pm

MAL has starting salary on the B757 at 65k plus a 12k a year retention bonus. Contract is up for renegotiation in 2020. The salary will be at least 77k to start.

Upgrades are 4-5 year at this point I reckon. The staff is senior and there is no movement at the top to leave. All the upgrades are from unprecedented growth.

Per diems are $3.50 an hour away from base. I averaged 700-950 a month. Months are 85 hours. Usually sched is less than 85 a month. overtime if you go over. 1/4 for hotel time.

Cargo jet has some nice perks like flying over seas and the 767, which is actually also a nasty weakness.

Morningstar pays more with a better sched on B757 while CJ pays less with a worse sched on a WIDEBODY 767........... 4% rrsp and 3 weeks vac day 1 to boot.

I'm a MAL fanboy obviously. So take it with a grain of salt, but facts are facts.
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Re: Jazz or CargoJet?

Post by LegoMan » Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:22 am

Duukar wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 3:40 pm
MAL has starting salary on the B757 at 65k plus a 12k a year retention bonus. Contract is up for renegotiation in 2020. The salary will be at least 77k to start.

Upgrades are 4-5 year at this point I reckon. The staff is senior and there is no movement at the top to leave. All the upgrades are from unprecedented growth.

Per diems are $3.50 an hour away from base. I averaged 700-950 a month. Months are 85 hours. Usually sched is less than 85 a month. overtime if you go over. 1/4 for hotel time.

Cargo jet has some nice perks like flying over seas and the 767, which is actually also a nasty weakness.

Morningstar pays more with a better sched on B757 while CJ pays less with a worse sched on a WIDEBODY 767........... 4% rrsp and 3 weeks vac day 1 to boot.

I'm a MAL fanboy obviously. So take it with a grain of salt, but facts are facts.
I thought the 12k bonus was only for the Caravan crew.
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Re: Jazz or CargoJet?

Post by Duukar » Tue Dec 18, 2018 11:16 pm

LegoMan wrote:
Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:22 am
Duukar wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 3:40 pm
MAL has starting salary on the B757 at 65k plus a 12k a year retention bonus. Contract is up for renegotiation in 2020. The salary will be at least 77k to start.

Upgrades are 4-5 year at this point I reckon. The staff is senior and there is no movement at the top to leave. All the upgrades are from unprecedented growth.

Per diems are $3.50 an hour away from base. I averaged 700-950 a month. Months are 85 hours. Usually sched is less than 85 a month. overtime if you go over. 1/4 for hotel time.

Cargo jet has some nice perks like flying over seas and the 767, which is actually also a nasty weakness.

Morningstar pays more with a better sched on B757 while CJ pays less with a worse sched on a WIDEBODY 767........... 4% rrsp and 3 weeks vac day 1 to boot.

I'm a MAL fanboy obviously. So take it with a grain of salt, but facts are facts.
I thought the 12k bonus was only for the Caravan crew.
Company wide now!
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Re: Jazz or CargoJet?

Post by LegoMan » Wed Jan 16, 2019 2:09 pm

How many nights away from home per month at Morningstar? Sounds like a decent place if you want to fly and still be around for the family.
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Re: Jazz or CargoJet?

Post by Pc12pilotGirl » Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:32 am

Hi i was just wondering if anyone knows what are the current minimums requirements (Hours, do i need multi engine hours,etc.) for a f/o job at Cargo Jet. Thanks
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Re: Jazz or CargoJet?

Post by FlackoJodye » Mon Oct 21, 2019 4:53 am

Good day,

Can anyone provide any current info on Cargo Jet? I am interested in applying in the near future. Did they improve their schedules/pay? Are they hiring bare minimums? Their job ad seems pretty vague. Is there a training bond for the 767 type rating? 1500 TT seems quite low so I’m guessing most applicants are NTR.

Thanks in advance!
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Re: Jazz or CargoJet?

Post by Chaxterium » Tue Dec 03, 2019 6:40 am

Another +1 for Morningstar. I just finished my line indoc on the 757. They have treated me very well. So far the schedule is really good. I work 9 days in December. 7 nights away from home. Off Christmas and Boxing Day.
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