Georgian CRJ YYZ

[dhc#]

Then when will the single RJ payscale change.....when the supply of pilots dries up, or are things in the works now to make improvements to the wawcon ?

With the projected RJ growth for 2016 the planes are arriving but are the crews ?

[Inverted2]

I don't have any proof but I swear they are getting guys from overseas to fly the RJ. All kinds of different accents on the radio when I hear GGN flights. No so with other Canadian companies.

[nightbird]

I don't have any proof but I swear they are getting guys from overseas to fly the RJ. All kinds of different accents on the radio when I hear GGN flights. No so with other Canadian companies.

There are a bunch of different nationalities at Georgian but they are all Canadian Citizens (naturalized) or permanent residents

[awitzke]

I don't have any proof but I swear they are getting guys from overseas to fly the RJ. All kinds of different accents on the radio when I hear GGN flights. No so with other Canadian companies.

I work with all kinds of different nationalities. Come fly in NW Ontario, you'll hear multiple Indian accents, French, one Italian guy (I think, couldnt' place the accent but that's my best guess).

I work with two French guys, both of whom moved to Canada to do their training and settle here permanently. Just because they have an accent doesn't mean they are here to work a year or two then leave. Many pilots in Canada come from other countries, do their training here then get jobs and end up settling as a resident or citizen.

[rigpiggy]

who was the president who signed this pm if necessary

[atpilot]

Has anyone heard of there being a CRJ ground school late February or early March?

[RWETHRYET]

One starts next Monday and another the last Monday of the month

[Instructor_Mike]

It's hard to believe I would need to take such a pay cut from a 703 to go to Georgian.

$29,669/year for entry FO? Ouch

[AirMail]

But they have jets, why wouldn't you!?

[Kingair200]

anyone has any idea how the interview like ??

thanks for any input!!

[nightbird]

It's hard to believe I would need to take such a pay cut from a 703 to go to Georgian.

$29,669/year for entry FO? Ouch

You don't have to, but if you always apply the same logic you woud never advance. Unfortunately that's the reality of this industry, I took a pay cut from instructing to 703 and again to 705 but always moved to a better job according to my own opinion. I gladly take a pay cut to move away from Sioux Lookout and potentially make more money in the future, every time the top income has increased. If you decide to stay there and you're happy that's great... but it's not for everyone.

[rudder]

For those that feel that entry level pay at some (most?) of the 705 operators is too low, then vote with your feet and do not apply. This problem is not isolated to GGN and manifests itself at several other carriers that have a current high demand for new-hire pilots.

The only way to change the operators paradigm that new-hires are a cost saving tool is to have an applicant drawer that is empty. Don't worry, eventually one will blink and then the rest will have to follow suit.....or cancel flights.

[Instructor_Mike]

What's sad is that I'm making more than 30K/year as an FO in a 703 turbo prop job. I would be taking a pay cut from entry level to go entry level.

I don't know how the per diems work so maybe they pay out enough to make it sort of worth it?

I've been kinda debating myself on if I should stick it out up here, go Captain and pay down a bunch of debt at the risk of getting used to the new pay rate vs getting the hell out of the north.

We had frost the last 2 mornings. ugh.

[nightbird]

Actually we block around 85h a month, way more if you want to do overtime... that's almost $39k a year plus $5k in perdiems, just giving you the facts.

Captains make around $75k with some making more than a 100k with a crazy amount of overtime.

It's not perfect but it's definitely not a pay cut from 30k and the job is a lot easier than any 703 job up north.. or so I think.

[atpilot]

Actually we block around 85h a month, way more if you want to do overtime... that's almost $39k a year plus $5k in perdiems, just giving you the facts.

Captains make around $75k with some making more than a 100k with a crazy amount of overtime.

It's not perfect but it's definitely not a pay cut from 30k and the job is a lot easier than any 703 job up north.. or so I think.

Just to add... I've met some pretty great people that work there.

[NickyNick]

Actually we block around 85h a month, way more if you want to do overtime... that's almost $39k a year plus $5k in perdiems, just giving you the facts.

Captains make around $75k with some making more than a 100k with a crazy amount of overtime.

It's not perfect but it's definitely not a pay cut from 30k and the job is a lot easier than any 703 job up north.. or so I think.

What is the lookout for when hiring will begin again? I'd love to take a pay cut to get out of the dirty reserves but there's been no hiring at the regionals.

[sstaurus]

What is the lookout for when hiring will begin again? I'd love to take a pay cut to get out of the dirty reserves but there's been no hiring at the regionals.

I wouldn't count on it, hiring is at a standstill everywhere. I don't foresee WJ or AC hiring for at least another 10 years.

[iflyroads]

What is the lookout for when hiring will begin again? I'd love to take a pay cut to get out of the dirty reserves but there's been no hiring at the regionals.

I wouldn't count on it, hiring is at a standstill everywhere. I don't foresee WJ or AC hiring for at least another 10 years.

Yeah and with passenger loads at an all time low I don't see any hope. Might have to consider a change in industry.

[x15]

Am I missing something? AC was running two ground schools a month because they need 300+ guys. Standstill? Whatchu talkin 'bout Willis.... LOL

[fruitloops]

Info - btw - GGN has hired over 100 pilots in past 7-8 months - SkyRegional a ton too - > NickyNick not included of course, he's got too much PIC time to make it on a regional