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 Post subject: Flair PAY
PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2016 7:25 am 
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I know severely sub par - But what is the left seat wawcon...?


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 Post subject: Re: Flair PAY
PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2016 6:57 pm 
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So you don't know the pay, however your convinced it sucks. And your interested in the job anyway


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 Post subject: Re: Flair PAY
PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2016 6:09 am 
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I'm assuming by the lack of responses on the now two different forum posts that the conditions do in fact suck.....if they were good, people would know about them.


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 Post subject: Re: Flair PAY
PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2016 10:33 am 
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The only way to launch a ULCC is with ULCCrews.


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 Post subject: Re: Flair PAY
PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2016 10:00 pm 
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PM me if your interested.


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 Post subject: Re: Flair PAY
PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2016 7:53 am 
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Previously they were offering 10 GDO's/month and 93K/year for DEC to start.


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 Post subject: Re: Flair PAY
PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2016 3:10 pm 
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Actually sickening.....


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 Post subject: Re: Flair PAY
PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2016 3:58 pm 
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tbaylx wrote:
Previously they were offering 10 GDO's/month and 93K/year for DEC to start.


That's actually not too bad, to start. Not sure why most pilots think they should all be making $200,000+.

I fly a much smaller airplane than a 737, and make north of $120,000. I honestly feel I am way overpaid for what I do!



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 Post subject: Re: Flair PAY
PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2016 5:04 pm 
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flyingvinnie wrote:
tbaylx wrote:
Previously they were offering 10 GDO's/month and 93K/year for DEC to start.


That's actually not too bad, to start. Not sure why most pilots think they should all be making $200,000+.

I fly a much smaller airplane than a 737, and make north of $120,000. I honestly feel I am way overpaid for what I do!


That is pretty much on the low side for an experienced qualified B737 captain. No one said anything about $200K+ though that certainly wouldn't be unreasonable for someone with the right experience. $120K/year would be a reasonable and fair starting wage for such a position based on current narrowbody pay scales in Canada.

It's their operation however and they can offer whatever they feel like. If they don't get the experience they're looking for then they'll have to up the T&C's until they do.



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 Post subject: Re: Flair PAY
PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2016 9:08 pm 
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tbaylx wrote:
flyingvinnie wrote:
tbaylx wrote:
Previously they were offering 10 GDO's/month and 93K/year for DEC to start.


That's actually not too bad, to start. Not sure why most pilots think they should all be making $200,000+.

I fly a much smaller airplane than a 737, and make north of $120,000. I honestly feel I am way overpaid for what I do!


That is pretty much on the low side for an experienced qualified B737 captain. No one said anything about $200K+ though that certainly wouldn't be unreasonable for someone with the right experience. $120K/year would be a reasonable and fair starting wage for such a position based on current narrowbody pay scales in Canada.

It's their operation however and they can offer whatever they feel like. If they don't get the experience they're looking for then they'll have to up the T&C's until they do.


Yes, but anybody making that wage flying a narrowbody is not a new hire at that company. I don't think WJ or any other company is going to hire off the street for captains.



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 Post subject: Re: Flair PAY
PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:15 pm 
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Actually it is 5 GDO/ 5 SDO so far. Union is there now so it may change to 10 GDO in time.
LHS pay originally started at 90k and was bumped to around 95k later, topped at 138k after 10 years of servise.
One point is after 120k there is really no change in paycheck due to taxes. I did not see it anyway.
Another point was mentioned above - how many other direct entry 737 PIC jobs are there in Canada?
Quite a few FO's got their LHS upgrade within 2-3 years. Way ahead of 7-10 years somewhere else.
I don't believe there are any dream jobs exist in this industry anymore.
However Flair could have been a good step up move for many on their way to greener pastures.



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 Post subject: Re: Flair PAY
PostPosted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 2:57 pm 
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Do things still look so rosie with NewLeaf starting to take a lot of heat from WJ? I just saw WJ to start operating 45 flights a week out of Hamilton? How is the stability at Flair if NewLeaf shuts'r down?


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 Post subject: Re: Flair PAY
PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 9:42 pm 
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Flair just bought New Leaf. Hope that means more stability.


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