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Voyageur

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 11:26 am
by garfield
``The successful candidate will be domiciled overseas at our current bases located throughout Africa on a typical rotation pattern of 8 weeks in / 8 weeks out. Opportunities may include some domestic charters when applicable.``

8 weeks out? Domestic charters? Does it mean that you're not OFF during your 8 weeks out and you need to stay standby in North Bay?

Is it still a 15 000$ bond for one year?

thanx

Re: Voyageur

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2016 11:57 am
by raven54
You're OFF for your 8 weeks. They may ask if you're interested in a charter if it comes up, you can say no. I imagine the bond still exists.

Re: Voyageur

Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2016 6:16 pm
by KenoraPilot
8 weeks over seas, travel on your time off so your 8 off is more like 7 off ish. You can live anywhere in Canada. No requirement to work on your time off. I can only assume $15,000 one year bond.

Re: Voyageur

Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 6:26 pm
by garfield
And when you renew your PPC you do this during your time away or your time OFF?

thanx

Re: Voyageur

Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 7:04 pm
by KenoraPilot
On ur time off

Re: Voyageur

Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 7:10 pm
by North Shore
What's the pay?

Re: Voyageur

Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 10:11 pm
by Jimmy2
So what's the job actually like? I mean specifically the CRJ in Africa.

Re: Voyageur

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 1:49 am
by KenoraPilot
Pm me

Re: Voyageur

Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2017 8:46 pm
by BE20 Driver
Unless things have changed, you don't get to choose which aircraft you fly. The good news is that they are all good 705 machines.

You might get some say in basing if there is more than one opening that lines up with your availability. I think other than Afghanistan you didn't have the right to turn down a base assignment and hold out for something better.

Re: Voyageur

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 11:16 am
by pecessix
Last information I got (January 2017):
- starting salary is 36000$ for an F/O and 55000$ for a captain (same on DHC8 and CRJ).
- Paid only when working or during training.
- salary x 1.35 when outside of Canada
- no pay during time off, you get just the benefits
- 8 weeks on / 8 weeks off
- travel during time off
- training during time off
- per diem is 50$ a day
- eligible for the benefits after 3 months
- pension plan after 2 years
- 15000$ loan, no money goes to VAL, it's on a bank account and stays there for one year (0% credit with the bank or you can advance the money)
- right now they have contracts in Mali, Niger, DRC, Sudan, South Sudan, Uganda

Re: Voyageur

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 11:53 am
by dhc#
Looking at older Voyageur threads, it would appear that salary/perdiems haven't changed in years...

Re: Voyageur

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 1:34 pm
by Zaibatsu
Anyone know what their medevac side pays?

Re: Voyageur

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2017 11:32 am
by Lebowski
Thank you Pecessix for that very useful information.

I'm trying to figure out what a new FO on the Dash 8 or CRJ would make during his/her first year.

This is what I've come up with...

Salary for overseas work: 36000 x 1.35 = 48600
Per diems for half the year: 50 x 182 = 9100

Total: 48600 + 9100 = 57700

Can someone confirm these numbers?

Thanks in advance.

Re: Voyageur

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2017 2:42 pm
by Cat Driver
Do you people pay the required 10% tithe to your church on per diems?

Re: Voyageur

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2017 2:53 pm
by ditar
Unless you can subsist on sand and the local variety of grubs for each meal, per diems are not salary and shouldn't be counted as such. $50 per day is pretty lousy too.

Re: Voyageur

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 1:54 am
by AZ382
Lebowski wrote:Thank you Pecessix for that very useful information.

I'm trying to figure out what a new FO on the Dash 8 or CRJ would make during his/her first year.

This is what I've come up with...

Salary for overseas work: 36000 x 1.35 = 48600
Per diems for half the year: 50 x 182 = 9100

Total: 48600 + 9100 = 57700

Can someone confirm these numbers?

Thanks in advance.
Factoring in that you are not paid on time off and it is 135% on top of domestic when on rotation, it works out to 17.5% over annual base.

36000 x 17.5% = 42300

Re: Voyageur

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 7:51 am
by TG
You mean that the 36000$ base salary as F/O is actually only 18000$!? (half of it/6 month per year)

I think you have it wrong, otherwise base salary would be listed as 18K instead of 36K (time whatever while in the field)

Re: Voyageur

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 9:12 am
by Inverted2
You'd have to add another 0 to those salaries to get me anywhere near Africa. Not much better than an entry level -8 job in Canada. Unless you like the overseas stuff....

Re: Voyageur

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 11:45 am
by AZ382
Believe my math is correct..

Re: Voyageur

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 12:44 pm
by TG
Yes your math is correct.

But I highly doubt this 18k coming out as a result would be the actual base salary (plus field pay)
That sounds insanely low and you make sound that Voyager is misleading about salary prospects when 36k is advertised as starting base salary.

This makes more sense:
Lebowski wrote: Salary for overseas work: 36000 x 1.35 = 48600
Even if you get no pay during time off, that's what should be your overall T4, I think...Anyone can confirm?



Still low :|