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``The successful candidate will be domiciled overseas at our current bases located throughout Africa on a typical rotation pattern of 8 weeks in / 8 weeks out. Opportunities may include some domestic charters when applicable.``
8 weeks out? Domestic charters? Does it mean that you're not OFF during your 8 weeks out and you need to stay standby in North Bay?
Is it still a 15 000$ bond for one year?
thanx
8 weeks out? Domestic charters? Does it mean that you're not OFF during your 8 weeks out and you need to stay standby in North Bay?
Is it still a 15 000$ bond for one year?
thanx
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You're OFF for your 8 weeks. They may ask if you're interested in a charter if it comes up, you can say no. I imagine the bond still exists.
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Re: Voyageur
8 weeks over seas, travel on your time off so your 8 off is more like 7 off ish. You can live anywhere in Canada. No requirement to work on your time off. I can only assume $15,000 one year bond.
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And when you renew your PPC you do this during your time away or your time OFF?
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Re: Voyageur
What's the pay?
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Re: Voyageur
So what's the job actually like? I mean specifically the CRJ in Africa.
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Re: Voyageur
Unless things have changed, you don't get to choose which aircraft you fly. The good news is that they are all good 705 machines.
You might get some say in basing if there is more than one opening that lines up with your availability. I think other than Afghanistan you didn't have the right to turn down a base assignment and hold out for something better.
You might get some say in basing if there is more than one opening that lines up with your availability. I think other than Afghanistan you didn't have the right to turn down a base assignment and hold out for something better.
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Last information I got (January 2017):
- starting salary is 36000$ for an F/O and 55000$ for a captain (same on DHC8 and CRJ).
- Paid only when working or during training.
- salary x 1.35 when outside of Canada
- no pay during time off, you get just the benefits
- 8 weeks on / 8 weeks off
- travel during time off
- training during time off
- per diem is 50$ a day
- eligible for the benefits after 3 months
- pension plan after 2 years
- 15000$ loan, no money goes to VAL, it's on a bank account and stays there for one year (0% credit with the bank or you can advance the money)
- right now they have contracts in Mali, Niger, DRC, Sudan, South Sudan, Uganda
- starting salary is 36000$ for an F/O and 55000$ for a captain (same on DHC8 and CRJ).
- Paid only when working or during training.
- salary x 1.35 when outside of Canada
- no pay during time off, you get just the benefits
- 8 weeks on / 8 weeks off
- travel during time off
- training during time off
- per diem is 50$ a day
- eligible for the benefits after 3 months
- pension plan after 2 years
- 15000$ loan, no money goes to VAL, it's on a bank account and stays there for one year (0% credit with the bank or you can advance the money)
- right now they have contracts in Mali, Niger, DRC, Sudan, South Sudan, Uganda
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Looking at older Voyageur threads, it would appear that salary/perdiems haven't changed in years...
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Thank you Pecessix for that very useful information.
I'm trying to figure out what a new FO on the Dash 8 or CRJ would make during his/her first year.
This is what I've come up with...
Salary for overseas work: 36000 x 1.35 = 48600
Per diems for half the year: 50 x 182 = 9100
Total: 48600 + 9100 = 57700
Can someone confirm these numbers?
Thanks in advance.
I'm trying to figure out what a new FO on the Dash 8 or CRJ would make during his/her first year.
This is what I've come up with...
Salary for overseas work: 36000 x 1.35 = 48600
Per diems for half the year: 50 x 182 = 9100
Total: 48600 + 9100 = 57700
Can someone confirm these numbers?
Thanks in advance.
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Re: Voyageur
Do you people pay the required 10% tithe to your church on per diems?
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Re: Voyageur
Unless you can subsist on sand and the local variety of grubs for each meal, per diems are not salary and shouldn't be counted as such. $50 per day is pretty lousy too.
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Factoring in that you are not paid on time off and it is 135% on top of domestic when on rotation, it works out to 17.5% over annual base.Lebowski wrote:Thank you Pecessix for that very useful information.
I'm trying to figure out what a new FO on the Dash 8 or CRJ would make during his/her first year.
This is what I've come up with...
Salary for overseas work: 36000 x 1.35 = 48600
Per diems for half the year: 50 x 182 = 9100
Total: 48600 + 9100 = 57700
Can someone confirm these numbers?
Thanks in advance.
36000 x 17.5% = 42300
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You mean that the 36000$ base salary as F/O is actually only 18000$!? (half of it/6 month per year)
I think you have it wrong, otherwise base salary would be listed as 18K instead of 36K (time whatever while in the field)
I think you have it wrong, otherwise base salary would be listed as 18K instead of 36K (time whatever while in the field)
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You'd have to add another 0 to those salaries to get me anywhere near Africa. Not much better than an entry level -8 job in Canada. Unless you like the overseas stuff....
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Yes your math is correct.
But I highly doubt this 18k coming out as a result would be the actual base salary (plus field pay)
That sounds insanely low and you make sound that Voyager is misleading about salary prospects when 36k is advertised as starting base salary.
This makes more sense:
Still low
But I highly doubt this 18k coming out as a result would be the actual base salary (plus field pay)
That sounds insanely low and you make sound that Voyager is misleading about salary prospects when 36k is advertised as starting base salary.
This makes more sense:
Even if you get no pay during time off, that's what should be your overall T4, I think...Anyone can confirm?Lebowski wrote: Salary for overseas work: 36000 x 1.35 = 48600
Still low