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ORNGE AD

#1 Post by jamesa » Fri Dec 23, 2016 1:30 pm

Ornge seems to be posting ads every couple of months. I am wondering the following:

- Flight hours per month (per base)?
- Upgrade times?

Thanks
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Re: ORNGE AD

#2 Post by lownslow » Sat Dec 24, 2016 1:00 pm

I'm not with Ornge, though I do see them around in my travels. Looks to me like they're flying a lot more than they used to and I would suspect each pilot pretty well has to see at least 500 hours a year as a bare minimum, 800 wouldn't surprise me at all and even that feels pretty conservative. As for upgrade, that one is harder as it sounds to me like their captains have it pretty well and all the ones I've met plan to stay. Hopefully someone from within chimes in or at least sends you a PM.

Most 703s are filled with hit-it-and-quit-it pilots at present, so if your question about upgrade is because you want to stay a good long time be sure to make that perfectly clear to them. Commitment is a very valuable thing in Canadian aviation right now.
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Re: ORNGE AD

#3 Post by jamesa » Sat Dec 24, 2016 6:16 pm

That is great information. Thanks a lot!

Can anyone else comment or confirm that this seems about right as far as hours go? Also, does anyone else have an idea if some bases fly more than others?

PS. Merry Christmas!
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Re: ORNGE AD

#4 Post by MOAB » Sun Dec 25, 2016 8:24 am

I am on the rotary side. I don't know exact figures but I know they fly a ton. Most bases seem to be busy, YQT and YXL seem to be very steady, and likely depends on the day and what is already in the air.
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#5 Post by Black_Tusk » Mon Dec 26, 2016 2:49 pm

If you join the company you'll likely get posted in YQT or YXL to start as those are the "Jr" bases.
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#6 Post by SuperchargedRS » Mon Dec 26, 2016 3:25 pm

YQT is a college town, if you're into clubbing baby seals, life wouldn't be too bad.

Maybe offer to "tutor" to 2-3 hot chicks in the confed program, slayin' it!
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Re: ORNGE AD

#7 Post by jamesa » Mon Dec 26, 2016 3:41 pm

Thanks to all of you for the replies.

Does anyone have some numbers for YXL or YQT?
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Re: ORNGE AD

#8 Post by MOAB » Tue Dec 27, 2016 6:30 am

Regardless of the figures I would apply and ask for details in your interview.
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Re: ORNGE AD

#9 Post by lownslow » Tue Dec 27, 2016 7:34 am

jamesa wrote:Thanks to all of you for the replies.

Does anyone have some numbers for YXL or YQT?
The number of qualified pilots available to fly for them is going down, while the number of sick and injured people in Ontario stays roughly the same. There will be lots of flying, possibly only restricted by the CARs or the union.

Good example: three Ornge PC-12s arrived in YQT at the same time a couple nights ago, with a fourth starting the approach just after I left. They're busy.
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Re: ORNGE AD

#10 Post by jamesa » Wed Dec 28, 2016 7:33 pm

Can any fixed wing pilots at Ornge confirm the amount of hours per month?

Also, would going from 500 hours in a King Air to a PC12 be a step in the wrong direction or would it all come out in the wash?
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#11 Post by DrSpaceman » Thu Dec 29, 2016 8:16 am

The good old single vs multi question.
I'll just say this, in most application processes now, all single time is bunched together, so basically just as valuable as Cessna time.
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Re: ORNGE AD

#12 Post by Hayseed » Sat Dec 31, 2016 5:50 am

Could you commute to this job from Southern Ontario?
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#13 Post by billgeno » Sat Dec 31, 2016 7:56 am

Hayseed wrote:Could you commute to this job from Southern Ontario?
I don't work for Ornge, however from what I know it's a 4 on / 4 off schedule - 2 days / 2 nights then 4 days off and no flight bennies, so commuting might be hard.
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Re: ORNGE AD

#14 Post by Spirit » Sat Dec 31, 2016 2:44 pm

Anyone know the pay for First Officers?
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#15 Post by lownslow » Sat Dec 31, 2016 5:50 pm

Spirit wrote:Anyone know the pay for First Officers?
Assuming you're okay with flying a single in the middle of nowhere in the middle of the night (please don't argue that here, though), Ornge appears to be one of the best 703's to work for by almost every metric.
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#16 Post by SuperchargedRS » Sun Jan 01, 2017 6:16 am

lownslow wrote:
Spirit wrote:Anyone know the pay for First Officers?
Assuming you're okay with flying a single in the middle of nowhere in the middle of the night (please don't argue that here, though), Ornge appears to be one of the best 703's to work for by almost every metric.
Lolz, you post a argumentative statement and say not to argue.

But you're right, PC12s are falling out of the sky left and right :roll:

There are a million other saftey concerns in life before that one, it's like the fat guy that said I was crazy for flying a PC12 single pilot night IFR, kinda chuckled and informed him he'd stroke out or have a MI well before that mill stopped turning.



DrSpaceman wrote:The good old single vs multi question.
I'll just say this, in most application processes now, all single time is bunched together, so basically just as valuable as Cessna time.
Any company that viewed flying a MEDEVAC PC12 hard IMC in the same light as buzzing around the practice area in a 172, first off not very smart management, second not a company Id want to work for anyways, try not to surround yourself with idiots.
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Re: ORNGE AD

#17 Post by flyinhigh » Sun Jan 01, 2017 8:04 am

SuperchargedRS wrote:
But you're right, PC12s are falling out of the sky left and right :roll:

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I can't tell if this is sarcastic or not. If it is not, can you add some facts to it as I have only heard of a couple in the past 20 years.

Happy New Year
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#18 Post by SuperchargedRS » Sun Jan 01, 2017 8:48 am

Very much sarcastic

I fly a single pilot medevac PC12 for a living, and frankly if you're scared of flying that, you must live a super sheltered life lol
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#19 Post by Illya Kuryakin » Sun Jan 01, 2017 8:51 am

flyinhigh wrote:
SuperchargedRS wrote:
But you're right, PC12s are falling out of the sky left and right :roll:

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I can't tell if this is sarcastic or not. If it is not, can you add some facts to it as I have only heard of a couple in the past 20 years.

Happy New Year
OBVIOUSLY tongue in cheek! Unless you've been living under a rock, or don't get out much.
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Re: ORNGE AD

#20 Post by lownslow » Sun Jan 01, 2017 12:36 pm

SuperchargedRS wrote:I fly a single pilot medevac PC12 for a living, and frankly if you're scared of flying that, you must live a super sheltered life lol
Good on you, hope you enjoy it. I just brought it up because it gives some people second thoughts is all. Why so defensive?
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Re: ORNGE AD

#21 Post by SuperchargedRS » Sun Jan 01, 2017 1:09 pm

Thanks, and very much so.



Defensive? I could care less.


It's just silly and rooted in stupidity, just like how some people have second thoughts about sitting next to a black person at a bus stop, isn't based on logic, just poorly thought out fear, which I guess sums up most fear.
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Re: ORNGE AD

#22 Post by Rookie50 » Sun Jan 01, 2017 7:28 pm

If offered the choice, I'd ride in, or fly, a SE turbine before a clapped out twin piston, 10/10.

And Used AC Prices sure reflect that, too.
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Re: ORNGE AD

#23 Post by jamesa » Tue Jan 03, 2017 11:37 am

Has anyone heard back?
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#24 Post by Spirit » Mon Jan 23, 2017 1:12 pm

Is Ornge also $10K upfront bond? Anyone know?
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Re: ORNGE AD

#25 Post by MOAB » Wed Jan 25, 2017 7:18 am

Should be no bond.
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