Is there really a shortage of Canadian pilots?

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Is there really a shortage of Canadian pilots?

#1 Post by rayban » Fri Jan 20, 2017 12:42 pm

I read a posting today from a Canadian regional operator seeking captains and I was surprised to see that they are now seeking applicants from Europe, USA and Africa. I guess operators looking for qualified applicants have no need to improve remuneration or working conditions for Canadians if they can just seek applicants from anywhere. I certainly hope this doesn't become a trend. I've pasted an excerpt of the ad in question. I've obscured the name of said operator in the hopes that the mods here don't pull my posting. My intention is to engage the pilot community in a discussion of this relatively new tactic on the part of certain operators.



If you are interested in a Captain position, submit your resume with three References and cover letter to employment@e***air.com, please quote “1900D Captain Position” in subject. Thank you to everyone expressing an interest in joining our E** Air team. Only those candidates selected for an interview will be contacted.

NOTE: Help will be provided to those applicants who meet the qualifications listed above. European, American, and African applicants - with the experience listed above - are welcome to apply.
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Re: Is there really a shortage of Canadian pilots?

#2 Post by 7ECA » Fri Jan 20, 2017 12:46 pm

Of course not, what is more likely occurring is a shortage of pilots willing to work for peanuts - or to take significant pay cuts to "move up" in the industry.

There may also be a shortage of people completing CPLs, something which we used to know as TC published the stats on a yearly basis... And then there are the large percentages of people who get their CPL, but then leave the industry.
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Re: Is there really a shortage of Canadian pilots?

#3 Post by goingnowherefast » Fri Jan 20, 2017 7:11 pm

Some companies struggle much more than others in finding new pilots. Level of desparity tends to roughly correlate to WAWCON offered by said employers. Although many other factors apply too.

There is a shortage of pilots willing to put up with poor treatment, but you'll find that in any industry.
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Re: Is there really a shortage of Canadian pilots?

#4 Post by JeppsOnFire » Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:49 pm

Maybe there is.
A YYZ Lear 45 operator is posting for a Capt. Position only requiring 2000TT.
I know they'll find someone much more qualified than that - but to even post that seems crazy to me. A Lear 45 is no wild animal like a Beech 1900 which usually asks for 3000+TT but seriously.
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Re: Is there really a shortage of Canadian pilots?

#5 Post by BE20 Driver » Thu Feb 02, 2017 10:54 pm

I believe that Canada only had about 350 applicants for ATPL's last year IIRC.

Forecast hiring at Air Canada is around 400 in 2017 I believe
WestJet ~150 to maybe even close to 200 if you believe the rumours
Air Transat ??
Sunwing - there was a Captain opening as of December. If you're Canadian, good luck.
Jazz - ??
Encore - 120
Calm Air - ?
...

Maybe some people have better numbers than I have but even if only Air Canada and WestJet are hiring, they'll soak up all the new ATPL applicants over the next 6 months.

If this trend continues, you'll see a shortage and eventually more foreign pilots than Sunwing can handle.

Pilot shortage, maybe.
Pilots willing to work 20 days for peanuts - now there's your problem.
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Re: Is there really a shortage of Canadian pilots?

#6 Post by Rowdy » Sat Feb 04, 2017 11:25 am

Looks like jazz slated to hire 200-250 this year...
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Re: Is there really a shortage of Canadian pilots?

#7 Post by Black_Tusk » Sat Feb 04, 2017 3:18 pm

Rowdy wrote:Looks like jazz slated to hire 200-250 this year...
On the first day, the head of Flight Ops said 350.

To answer the OP, I'd say maybe not now but soon. Just look at the job ads here. I've never seen it the way it is now for the few years I've been in aviation. When Navajo companies are having trouble finding 1000 hour DECs because they would rather stay where they are and go to Jazz at 1500-2000 it's a sign. Look at CMA, they have FO's who don't want to upgrade because they'd rather go to a bigger regional and the Captains they do have are all leaving.
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Re: Is there really a shortage of Canadian pilots?

#8 Post by Rowdy » Sat Feb 04, 2017 5:34 pm

Black_Tusk wrote:
Rowdy wrote:Looks like jazz slated to hire 200-250 this year...
On the first day, the head of Flight Ops said 350..
Thats the total to replace the movement to AC after the first PML
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Re: Is there really a shortage of Canadian pilots?

#9 Post by Black_Tusk » Sat Feb 04, 2017 6:42 pm

I see. So basically 200-250 for normal filling of positions that are currently vacant and then likely another 100 to fill the positions of those going to AC.
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