Instructor Training Bonds?

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Instructor Training Bonds?

#1 Post by LifeAt90Kts » Fri Feb 10, 2017 10:03 am

Judging by the plethora of job ads currently, the industry is hurting for instructors. Having to shell out ~$9,000 after flight school just isn't an option for some people that might otherwise gladly go the instructor route.

Are there FTU's that offer a training bond type agreement for instructor ratings? As in, they provide your training, and provided you perform well, they pro-rate the cost of the training over 12 or 24 months?

It costs about $12,000 CAD to send a King Air FO to Flight Safety for an initial, so making instructors would be a relative bargain!

If this option doesn't already exist, do you think with the current movement that it might become one in the near future?
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Re: Instructor Training Bonds?

#2 Post by Tylerjohnston » Fri Feb 10, 2017 10:53 am

This is a large struggle in the US, lots of FTUs do this. I know of a buddy that did it at Flight Safety in Vero Beach!
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Re: Instructor Training Bonds?

#3 Post by marakii » Fri Feb 10, 2017 12:46 pm

LifeAt90Kts wrote:Judging by the plethora of job ads currently, the industry is hurting for instructors. Having to shell out ~$9,000 after flight school just isn't an option for some people that might otherwise gladly go the instructor route.

Are there FTU's that offer a training bond type agreement for instructor ratings? As in, they provide your training, and provided you perform well, they pro-rate the cost of the training over 12 or 24 months?

It costs about $12,000 CAD to send a King Air FO to Flight Safety for an initial, so making instructors would be a relative bargain!

If this option doesn't already exist, do you think with the current movement that it might become one in the near future?
The industry is hurting for Class 3 and higher instructors, I don't think there are many class 4's that are getting hired.
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#4 Post by mmm..bacon » Fri Feb 10, 2017 3:40 pm

Don't hire class4s, and there will be no 3,2,1 eventually either.
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Re: Instructor Training Bonds?

#5 Post by marakii » Fri Feb 10, 2017 5:35 pm

mmm..bacon wrote:Don't hire class4s, and there will be no 3,2,1 eventually either.

I'm a class 4 and they keep saying "oh you need supervision, sorry we don't need you . You're scum."

Is there any hope ?
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#6 Post by Black_Tusk » Fri Feb 10, 2017 7:42 pm

Seriously? You WANT a bond?
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#7 Post by lownslow » Sat Feb 11, 2017 8:13 am

Black_Tusk wrote:Seriously? You WANT a bond?
A bond works both ways. Yes, it means the employee owes something to the employer but it also provides some security to them as well in addition to cutting one time out-of-pocket expenses in the case of a promissory note where no cash is exchanged.

It's the exact terms of the agreement that one has to be wary of.
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#8 Post by LifeAt90Kts » Sat Feb 11, 2017 9:45 am

I know bonds are a contentious issue, and I see the merit in both arguments. In the case of a bond the prevents out of pocket expense for an instructor rating, it could be a win win for the right individual. Fresh out of flight school and up to the teeth in student loans, and you have some job security for a couple of years.

If you don't like it, find the cash and pay for your rating up front. No one could force you into it.
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Re: Instructor Training Bonds?

#9 Post by Aviatard » Sun Feb 12, 2017 6:13 am

LifeAt90Kts wrote:Judging by the plethora of job ads currently, the industry is hurting for instructors. Having to shell out ~$9,000 after flight school just isn't an option for some people that might otherwise gladly go the instructor route.
For us at least I don't see this happening. We are actually turning people away because we're too busy to take on new instructor candidates right now. Of course we're located in the center of the universe, so it may be different in other parts of the country.
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