I am a Canadian pilot who went abroad to fly the 320 for an Asian carrier. While I had a good time out there, I'd like to return home now. Where should I apply with the following stats?
800 hours on the Airbus 320
I can't seem to find any A320 operators looking for First Officers with such a low TT.
Also, most of the low-cost carriers seem to be operating the 737 instead of the Airbus, so would that be my best bet? How would I go about that?
Or should I just stay in Asia until I have more hours and hope for a job on the Airbus in Canada?
The problem is that I recently found out that my current airline has an unspoken policy of not upgrading any foreign pilots, only locals, so I don't see a future here at all.
Thanks a lot.
Sorry? What??? I don't mind being a First Officer, in fact, I enjoy it a lot. It's just that I want to at least have a hope of being a Captain one day. That's all, no offence intended.cdnpilot77 wrote:https://img.memesuper.com/8e198f61098d7 ... 3-604.jpeg
I really want to go back home to Canada. I miss my friends and family (and sane government) so badly. I wouldn't say that going to Asia was a mistake, but wow, things are different here. The airline treats foreign pilots like dirt and my contract might as well have been written with a pencil. Does anybody have any leads for an A320 job in Canada for somebody with low time? I've been searching for weeks and nothing has turned up. At this point, I am even considering downgrading to turboprop but I really hope that I don't have to since I already have jet time.
I don't have any PIC time except from my initial training. Also, my airline has no PICUS program and also no upgrade opportunities to get command time since I am not a local, so there is nothing I can do. Does that mean that I am completely stuck and have to downgrade to turboprop? Is there any other way? I feel like I am trapped since most Canadian jobs want an ATPL but I can't get an ATPL without command time, but I can't get command time since my airline won't upgrade us.jpilot77 wrote:The only airline that operates 320s is Air Canada, but I've heard Air Transat is trading in their 310s for 321 Neos soon. But both require more than a 1000 hours (and to be competitive you'll need PIC hours as well) to be hired though.
Or find a right seat King Air job with a quick left seat upgrade. Either way, you likely won't be flying a jet for a while if you decide to come back to Canada.
If I were to become a flight instructor to get the ATPL, then is there any chance I would be eligible for jet jobs? Like A320 for Air Canada, CRJ at Jazz, or 737 for low-cost carriers (Sunwing, NewLeaf, etc). Also, do you need to be typed on the 737 to get those low-cost carrier jobs because I can't afford it -- the FI rating will take the rest of my savings and I am only making 1000USD/month right now.Black_Tusk wrote:Or find a right seat King Air job with a quick left seat upgrade. Either way, you likely won't be flying a jet for a while if you decide to come back to Canada.
Canadian airlines hire based on experience, education and references. If you do want to be employed here I suggest applying to all the 705 companies plus all the 704 companies that make sense.. close to home or a city you want to live etc.. from that point see if anyone is interested and go from there.
Seeing as how you have a lack of knowledge on the Canadian industry let us know where you'd like to live and perhaps some can let you know which companies may be around.
I fly 320s in Canada right now and as cushy and nice that it is, my previous job flying up north was FAR more enjoyable and rewarding. I do have a much better lifestyle at my current gig but flying a transport catagory jet isn't as fun as flying a turboprop in and out of crappy northern strips.
Actually, that is not the reason I want to stop. It may not sound like much in the Canadian sense but it is maybe 5x or 10x the median salary here. I live a quite comfortable life and also the company pays for housing expenses. The only problem is that I can't really save money for the move back to Canada because of the exchange rate.telex wrote:Please stop...I am only making 1000 USD/month right now.
I would suggest you do some research about how the industry works here in Canada. It would open your eyes a little and give you a better chance finding something.
The reason I am hesitant to switch to turboprop is because ... I LOVE the Airbus. It's a dream to fly and the cockpit is nice and spacious and quiet and wonderful in every way and everything I imagined it to be since I was a kid. Flying a jet has always been my dream and I'm not sure I will enjoy/be happy with flying props now that I've had a taste of the big metal.
Anyways, the responses here have given me a lot to think about. I thank everybody who took the time to reply.
I got a FAA Airbus type rating and then got an offer with the airline under the condition that I pay upfront for the first 500 hours line training/base training.skybluetrek wrote:Ok, I'll bite the bullet... Brian, could you please share your career path so far? Considering your TT and Time on type, did you go for a Self-sponsored A320 Type Rating + 1.000h Line Training Program? I'd honestly like to know how you got yourself to that ''nice and spacious and quiet and wonderful cockpit'' . Was it through an EASA ATO? Thanks.
This is the norm outside of North America. I'd say about 80% of the pilots I met abroad also paid for their rating and line training. When I first got my pilot's license in Canada there were no jobs. I had to do something. Obviously, I would have preferred to have not paid for training but I had no choice.wordstwice wrote:Oh my goodness ......
I cannot tell if this is a serious post or not.
I talked to some of my friends and they told me that with 500 hours on type I will have no problem finding another job abroad. So my plan, for now, is to stick it out until I can find a better airline with a good commuting contract and upgrade potential. Looks like there is not much of a future for me in Canada.
Thanks for all who actually gave advice.
Back2Can wrote:I got a FAA Airbus type rating and then got an offer with the airline under the condition that I pay upfront for the first 500 hours line training/base training.skybluetrek wrote:Ok, I'll bite the bullet... Brian, could you please share your career path so far? Considering your TT and Time on type, did you go for a Self-sponsored A320 Type Rating + 1.000h Line Training Program? I'd honestly like to know how you got yourself to that ''nice and spacious and quiet and wonderful cockpit'' . Was it through an EASA ATO? Thanks.