Training Bond Question
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Did you receive training? If not, then what bond could they possibly enforce?
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No. The offer would have the bond included (usually), so if you didn't sign back the offer or the bond, you're good.
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Short answer: no
Long answer: Have you already paid money? You may have to fight to get it back and that would be a bit tricky. You would be telling your ex-employer that you are repudiating the contract. You would then have to convince them (or a judge) a number of things:
a) that although you breached the contract, the company has suffered no damages;
b) that the company was unjustly enriched as they have your money, but had no costs;
c) Alternatively, a court could order a rescission of the contract if there are grounds to do so.
Good luck.
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That's actually a really good point. If you've paid into your training already, it may be tough to get that back without legal action.Bede wrote: ↑Sat May 26, 2018 4:08 pmShort answer: no
Long answer: Have you already paid money? You may have to fight to get it back and that would be a bit tricky. You would be telling your ex-employer that you are repudiating the contract. You would then have to convince them (or a judge) a number of things:
a) that although you breached the contract, the company has suffered no damages;
b) that the company was unjustly enriched as they have your money, but had no costs;
c) Alternatively, a court could order a rescission of the contract if there are grounds to do so.
Good luck.
As Bede said, good luck.
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Did they pay for the course and you bailed before they could recoup their costs?
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Most places have a course setup prior to interview, as long as he didn't sign back the job offer or give them money, he should be alright financially. Reputation, depending on how professionally he handled, it is questionable.leftoftrack wrote: ↑Mon May 28, 2018 3:03 pm Did they pay for the course and you bailed before they could recoup their costs?
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He turned down the job offer. Not sure how that would be considered unprofessional.schnitzel2k3 wrote: ↑Mon May 28, 2018 5:43 pmMost places have a course setup prior to interview, as long as he didn't sign back the job offer or give them money, he should be alright financially. Reputation, depending on how professionally he handled, it is questionable.leftoftrack wrote: ↑Mon May 28, 2018 3:03 pm Did they pay for the course and you bailed before they could recoup their costs?
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Based on the posted question, it’s implied that this pilot accepted the job and had a training date, at some point prior to commencing the training changed their mind.
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You'd be surprised what I've seen with guys lying in job interviews, delaying on the offer sign back and dodging communication, hoping for something else they had carpet bombed with their resume and interviewed for.atpilot wrote: ↑Mon May 28, 2018 7:14 pmHe turned down the job offer. Not sure how that would be considered unprofessional.schnitzel2k3 wrote: ↑Mon May 28, 2018 5:43 pmMost places have a course setup prior to interview, as long as he didn't sign back the job offer or give them money, he should be alright financially. Reputation, depending on how professionally he handled, it is questionable.leftoftrack wrote: ↑Mon May 28, 2018 3:03 pm Did they pay for the course and you bailed before they could recoup their costs?
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There is always a way to do everything unprofessionally, as being selfish is generally seen that way.
Absolutely not saying this was his case, but clearly he had another option he was more excited about or perhaps decided not to leave his former employer.
Who knows other than him.
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A former well known poster here once said; ”Honnor is
a mans gift to himself”
Got a bond? Got a better offer? GREAT! and congrats! (Be honorable and make good on what you owe!)
a mans gift to himself”
Got a bond? Got a better offer? GREAT! and congrats! (Be honorable and make good on what you owe!)
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Good on you, I can’t believe some operators are still doing things like that in this market.
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There is still a strong old mentality in Canadian Aviation that will have to change as conditions evolve. The day of dicking pilots around, treating them poorly and paying peanuts will have to come to an end, and it will if pilots enforce it and nobody takes crappy jobs (even the low timers)
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Good work bud and best of luck ops.opsman wrote: ↑Tue May 29, 2018 4:33 am Thanks to all off you for your input. Just to clarify...no bond amount was signed for. There was no other offer of employment from a different employer. They changed the conditions of employment, so the decision to decline the position was made. End result is that I'm still looking.
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