Evas

[HansDietrich]

I'll join in and say that this post did nothing but make EVAS look worse for us that had never worked there or had anything to do with it. They have a "Wall of Shame" for those captains that "waste money on de-icing?" Unreal. Does AC know about this? Does TC? I'd record every conversation with the bosses. I'd walk in, say "By the way, I'm recording this, so if you don't want to have this conversation recorded, then we're not having this conversation. See ya!"

[rigpiggy]

I'd record every conversation with the bosses. I'd walk in, say "By the way, I'm recording this, so if you don't want to have this conversation recorded, then we're not having this conversation. See ya!"

then they just find another reason to can you. have voice recorder on your phone" mine records all calls then asks if you want to save it after" kind of like firing the F/O for SMS'ing the CP for the FOGO run.

I hate to say it but in this industry management will never have your back, they will simply say that you were PIC and wash there hands

[thepriceisright]

I used to work at EVAS but got fired for writing a safety report. Never changed. Never will. TC does care if you pressure them enough. I got the enforcement Division involved and the company and DFO was fined. Keep your records, record conversations and you'll help peck away at these disgusting people.

[ehv8oar]

So now October is coming up, did you get your 6 on 5 off roster?

[Evascaptainyhz]

It is September... but no time line was actually given it was when we had 10 captains in yhz. We are there just waiting on sim completion for the captains. We should have it next schedule dependent on people staying.

[ehv8oar]

Haha yes I know its September, just asking as you tend to get the rosters before the end of the month.

Thanks for the info though. Would that just be for Captains or FO too? 6 on 5 off would be a nice schedule.

[Evascaptainyhz]

First officers I believe will be 6 and 4 as it motivates first officers to become captains. However I'm not 100% certain as there were talks of 6/5 for everyone. We received half of Octobers schedule and will be receiving the next one for Oct/ part of November in a few weeks. There have been many positive things said for this schedule coming up but we will have to see what actually gets released.

[PRM1]

Lol

[FL007]

First officers I believe will be 6 and 4 as it motivates first officers to become captains. However I'm not 100% certain as there were talks of 6/5 for everyone. We received half of Octobers schedule and will be receiving the next one for Oct/ part of November in a few weeks. There have been many positive things said for this schedule coming up but we will have to see what actually gets released.

I wouldn't be motivated to become a captain at a spot that didn't reward me for my hard work at any position.

How can captains get different schedules than fos? That's the first I've ever heard of this in aviation.

[ehv8oar]

First officers I believe will be 6 and 4 as it motivates first officers to become captains. However I'm not 100% certain as there were talks of 6/5 for everyone. We received half of Octobers schedule and will be receiving the next one for Oct/ part of November in a few weeks. There have been many positive things said for this schedule coming up but we will have to see what actually gets released.

Well 6 and 4 isn't awful either but obviously 6 and 5 would be better for the F/O's too. It's probably better to use more of the carrot than the stick in making people want to stay somewhere. Thanks again for the info.

[Evascaptainyhz]

As stated earlier, there has been nothing actually told yet so we will have to see. It very well could be 6/5 regardless 6 and 4 is still a good schedule that's what it was when I was a FO and I had no issues with it at all.

[Evascaptainyhz]

That topic has been brought up and responded to. I've never once ever heard of AAV so I'm not sure what your talking about... Anyways. This is not the thread for this kind of talk use Evas topic crushed. This for the last time is a thread for people who arnt current/former employees it's for new guys who want straight answers. It's not to bash Evas in the prensent or the past, it's for people who can look at where Evas is going, not where it's been. Every single aviation company has done stuff employees don't like just look where aviation has turned! Unions galore now because the companies have been taking to much advantage of their pilots.
Changes don't happen overnight just like our CBA probably won't be the best it can be on our 2nd negotions it will take more time and more refinement Rome wasn't built in a day. It's easy to be on the sidelines voicing your opinion, but to those former employees yes some were treated like crap, you didn't have a union at the time... Is that an excuse no but it would have helped you tremendously to have a team of people behind you to represent you. There are very few employees who are still there from when I was hired or before my time most current employees don't know what it was like a few years ago things have been slowly changing for the better. your not there anymore/ you didn't know how things were back then It's been slow moving don't get me wrong but things are coming together.

[LegoMan]

That topic has been brought up and responded to. I've never once ever heard of AAV so I'm not sure what your talking about... Anyways. This is not the thread for this kind of talk use Evas topic crushed. This for the last time is a thread for people who arnt current/former employees it's for new guys who want straight answers. It's not to bash Evas in the prensent or the past, it's for people who can look at where Evas is going, not where it's been. Every single aviation company has done stuff employees don't like just look where aviation has turned! Unions galore now because the companies have been taking to much advantage of their pilots.
Changes don't happen overnight just like our CBA probably won't be the best it can be on our 2nd negotions it will take more time and more refinement Rome wasn't built in a day. It's easy to be on the sidelines voicing your opinion, but to those former employees yes some were treated like crap, you didn't have a union at the time... Is that an excuse no but it would have helped you tremendously to have a team of people behind you to represent you. There are very few employees who are still there from when I was hired or before my time most current employees don't know what it was like a few years ago things have been slowly changing for the better. your not there anymore/ you didn't know how things were back then It's been slow moving don't get me wrong but things are coming together.

With all due respect, I work in an operations management role in a large $300MM company that employs well over 5,000 people. Change happens as fast as a company needs it to. We have made huge changes to our T&Cs because we were bleeding employees and it was impossible to meet our clients demands when we were constantly recruiting and training people. The company realized the way they had operated the previous 30 years was no longer going to work with the next generation of workers. Within 2-3 months we had restructured our pay, benefits and offered training and telecommuting options for workers that wanted it and focused on employee engagement.

When I hear a small company say changes dont change overnight, I call BS. It doesn't change because they dont want it to change. You are still getting applications but when that pile thins out you will change over night, trust me.

[leftoftrack]

what he's saying, is employees should expect to eat the same shit sandwich though the next contract, but they are hoping to add dijon mustard rather than frenches yellow. The way the industry is, I hope all prospective employees read this and know they can do better. the realist in me knows that isnt going to happen.

[snoopythecaptain]

as of right now
1. Promissary note is $20,000 again if you stay your contracted agreement (2 years)that doesnt matter. $0 upfront! the uniform is deducted off per pay cheque.(looking into this)
2. Depends on staff but yes usually around 90ish sometimes more sometimes less. (latley usually abit more then 90)
3. this is correct (again one of the major things we are looking at for CBA)
4. This depends on staff as a new hire technically you only get 10 GDOS after 2 years 11 after 5 13 This being said its fairly rare to actually work Minimum GDO's usually you will get 1 above min and a few reserves.
5. Schedule does change alot it has been for a long time (Most important thing we are looking at for new CBA)
6. $25 per day if over 5 hours. $43 if working at other base
7. $33,480 FO plus roughly 6.5K a year for per diems not including OT 61,389 with the 6.5K in perdiems again not including OT.
8. YQX is fairly decent but youd have to do your research, YHZ is almost impossible to answer depends on what you want. what area you want if you are by yourself etc...
9 .Correct
10. medical and dental again depends on what plan you use....etc anywhere from 40-80 per pay. you dont have a payback for the bond. there is no bond its a promissary Note.

$20,000 for 2 years for B1900 is way too MUCH way too LONG for today's aviation movement in Canada while other B1900 operator in Ontario is about $15000 or a 1 year to year and half. And you have to pay for your uniform?? really?? To be honest, this is not a bad job for low time pilot to earn experience but locking people for $20,000 and 2 years is too long and too much. Who wants to stay Gander or Halifax for 2 years earning $33000 when you have a offer from Porter, Jazz or Encore with better pay and no bond?

[ant_321]

as of right now
1. Promissary note is $20,000 again if you stay your contracted agreement (2 years)that doesnt matter. $0 upfront! the uniform is deducted off per pay cheque.(looking into this)
2. Depends on staff but yes usually around 90ish sometimes more sometimes less. (latley usually abit more then 90)
3. this is correct (again one of the major things we are looking at for CBA)
4. This depends on staff as a new hire technically you only get 10 GDOS after 2 years 11 after 5 13 This being said its fairly rare to actually work Minimum GDO's usually you will get 1 above min and a few reserves.
5. Schedule does change alot it has been for a long time (Most important thing we are looking at for new CBA)
6. $25 per day if over 5 hours. $43 if working at other base
7. $33,480 FO plus roughly 6.5K a year for per diems not including OT 61,389 with the 6.5K in perdiems again not including OT.
8. YQX is fairly decent but youd have to do your research, YHZ is almost impossible to answer depends on what you want. what area you want if you are by yourself etc...
9 .Correct
10. medical and dental again depends on what plan you use....etc anywhere from 40-80 per pay. you dont have a payback for the bond. there is no bond its a promissary Note.

$20,000 for 2 years for B1900 is way too MUCH way too LONG for today's aviation movement in Canada while other B1900 operator in Ontario is about $15000 or a 1 year to year and half. And you have to pay for your uniform?? really?? To be honest, this is not a bad job for low time pilot to earn experience but locking people for $20,000 and 2 years is too long and too much. Who wants to stay Gander or Halifax for 2 years earning $33000 when you have a offer from Porter, Jazz or Encore with better pay and no bond?

If you are leaving EVAS for Porter, Jazz or encore it certainly isn’t for the immediate pay raise. $33,000 goes WAY further in Halifax or Gander than $38,000 goes in yyz. Also, what’s wrong with living in YHZ or YQX? I live in YYZ and would move our to the east coast in a heartbeat if it wasn’t for the stunted career opportunities.

[snoopythecaptain]

$38,000 for Porter and Encore?? what year are you living in? Both Porter and Encore are paying around $45,000 for their nice Q400 with glasscockpit that has autopilot. And just so you know, the average Ontario Janitor makes $31,000 just $2000 less than your “pilot”

This is really bad....

[ant_321]

$38,000 for Porter and Encore?? what year are you living in? Both Porter and Encore are paying around $45,000 for their nice Q400 with glasscockpit that has autopilot. And just so you know, the average Ontario Janitor makes $31,000 just $2000 less than your “pilot”

This is really bad....

Ok fair enough. Jazz is still in the high 30’s. I still stand by my point. Your comment was basically assuming nobody wants to work on the east coast. The world doesn’t revolve around YYZ or YUL for a lot of people.

[C-GGGQ]

Porter has a base in yhz too. One of the main reasons they are on my list. So their 45 goes way further in Halifax than your 33.

[ant_321]

Porter has a base in yhz too. One of the main reasons they are on my list. So their 45 goes way further in Halifax than your 33.

And I get that. I responded to the poster because his commment made the assumption that people don’t want to live in YHZ or YQX. I would love to live in the east coast but the money and career opportunities left on the table by doing so aren’t worth it to me. And as for commuting, I wouldn’t dream of that for less than $500k a year. The thought of flying standby half way across the country to start work makes me cringe.