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I've been seeing a lot of CADORS on the metro crews lately.
I also saw a carson metro taxi onto the active runway in YLW and quickly turn around.
I heard starting pay for FO is 19000, and you need to sign a 2 year bond?
Supposedly Carson will go after you if you quite before that?
I was suprised to see the 16 day work month, i have heard it's 5 days a week, 17 hour days and they don't provide rooms for crew rest.
Some of this is 2nd hand knowledge, so please feel free to tell me different.
I also saw a carson metro taxi onto the active runway in YLW and quickly turn around.
I heard starting pay for FO is 19000, and you need to sign a 2 year bond?
Supposedly Carson will go after you if you quite before that?
I was suprised to see the 16 day work month, i have heard it's 5 days a week, 17 hour days and they don't provide rooms for crew rest.
Some of this is 2nd hand knowledge, so please feel free to tell me different.
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It was some really minor issues regarding radio calls. It's something that many guys have (or haven't) been doing for years. It was very specific situations, and corrective action has been taken.V1 wrote:I've been seeing a lot of CADORS on the metro crews lately.
what does that mean?V1 wrote:I also saw a carson metro taxi onto the active runway in YLW and quickly turn around.
Correct. Per diems on top of that, though....another 7200 per year, not taxed. so really, if you think about it, gross up the 7200, the total is around 29K pre tax. Still, not great, though. agreed.V1 wrote:I heard starting pay for FO is 19000, and you need to sign a 2 year bond?
if you guit after 4 months, yes, that's probably true....that's exactly why there is a bond there. If you don't like the job, don't take it.V1 wrote:Supposedly Carson will go after you if you quite before that?
Yeah, that sounds realistic....you guys believe everything you're told? There are crew rest facilities...either crew house or hotel, depends on location. Also, crew car or taxi cab provided. And the crew cars are nice , not shitboxes. they are long duty days, but usually more like 14. Long rest in the middle, though, and if you're smart, you'll rest, go to the gym, whatever. It's what you make of it.V1 wrote:17 hour days and they don't provide rooms for crew rest.
Look. it's not the greatest job in the world. But, talk to the guys working there, no ones treating like a career. it's a stepping stone and everyone knows that. If you go there with 1000 hours or so, you'll be left seat in less than a year. That's pretty good.V1 wrote:Some of this is 2nd hand knowledge, so please feel free to tell me different.
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With lower time and less experienced crews occupying the seats, you're bound to have a lot of folks "learning by doing". The Metro can be a tough reality check for those coming from smaller and more forgiving aircraft. If you fail to respect it, it can (and will) bite you.V1 wrote:I've been seeing a lot of CADORS on the metro crews lately.
I also saw a carson metro taxi onto the active runway in YLW and quickly turn around.
I heard starting pay for FO is 19000, and you need to sign a 2 year bond?
Supposedly Carson will go after you if you quite before that?
I was suprised to see the 16 day work month, i have heard it's 5 days a week, 17 hour days and they don't provide rooms for crew rest.
Some of this is 2nd hand knowledge, so please feel free to tell me different.
Last time I heard, the YVR crews have crew rooms. Hotel rooms in YYD, YXS, YXJ, and YCG come to mind. Can't say much about the pay, but you will log a ton of twin turbine time and learn a lot about yourself and how much you really want to be in this game.
As for training bonds: if you're going to sign one, then YOU should honour it. It really sucks for folks to blindly sign one and try to weasel their way out afterwards. Be accountable for YOUR actions.
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You can't possibly say that per diems are part of the pay? About $30.00 per day? Is that for 2 or 3 meals? How, exactly, is a per diem considered pay? I know that you have to do these kinds of jobs to get a start, but don't BS the crowd here, just say up front how crappy the pay is and deal with it.
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northernpilot wrote:CPT Pay 39K plus 7200 per diems.tired of the ground wrote:I'd like to hear the CPT pay, how much you fly and any "Extra" duties.
year 2 43K plus 7200 per diems.
extra duties are minimal. you fly 80-100 hours per month.
PER DIEMS ARE NOT PAY....
How many times do you people need to be told that????
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