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Re: AirSprint Fleet Transition

Post by AirSprintInc » Wed Mar 28, 2018 6:45 am

JetA Burner wrote:
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Has your fatigue risk management system changed your 90 min call out on reserve?

This is my dream gig on a 14/14 schedule, if the call out was a greater than 90 mins. I understand the minimum call out is rare, but the obligation to meet it if need be is the limiting factor for me.

The minimum callout is 90 minutes to report to your home base airport. But to clarify, you have 2.5 hours (1 hours after arriving) to get the airplane airborne. We also have a duty pilot system in place where one of our managment pilots is always there so help assist getting the aircraft ready, completing flight planning, and other tasks at the request of the PIC/SIC if required. And no, we don’t have too many short notice call outs like that.

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Re: AirSprint Fleet Transition

Post by AirSprintInc » Wed Mar 28, 2018 6:53 am

digits_ wrote:
Tue Mar 27, 2018 7:18 pm
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Tue Mar 27, 2018 6:49 pm
Really nice!

What percentage are night flights (let's say between midnight and 6 am)?

Is the bond linked to the base: for example if the company closes the secondary base after a year, are you still bonded for 2 years in total?

Great initiative though!
Hello,

Last we did an analysis on our night flights we found roughly 0.18% of our 7000+ yearly segments terminated at some point between 2am and 6am. So roughly 13 flights, not too many. We have more days that end between midnight and 2am, but I wouldn’t say those happen all the time. We do have a Fatigue Risk Managment program that requires a minimum 11 hours notice (and rest period) prior to a flight the goes past 2am.

The performance agreement (bond) is only associated with the initial type rating and not the base you are located at. As far as I can tell there would be no reason to close a secondary base since our operations take us all over North America and where the pilot is based is now playing less and less of a role.

Hope that Helps,

Cheers,

Adam
Sounds better every time I read this topic. And how many flights start before 6 AM? Just wondering how common it is to get called in the middle of the night for a 4 AM departure when you are on reserve. Bad medevac experiences come to mind.
We do have flights that start before 6am, I don’t have the exact data on those unfortunately. However, we are conscious of ones circadian lows and the same rule applies that you need 11 hours rest prior to flight operations between 2am - 6am, so those middle of the night calls to be airborne at 4am just don’t happen. AirSprint can call a pilot at 4am (assuming they have completed a full rest period) to report for a flight departing at 0630. The idea being the pilot will be out of the circadian low for the flight operation. And even those calls don’t happen very often. Early morning departures usually come with at least 11 hours notice.

Cheers,

Adam
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Re: AirSprint Fleet Transition

Post by AuxBatOn » Wed Mar 28, 2018 5:31 pm

Adam,

Kudos to you and AirSprint for being 100% honest and transparent and presenting facts (rather than opinions). Truly refreshing!
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Re: AirSprint Fleet Transition

Post by Marinth » Fri Mar 30, 2018 1:29 pm

With the 14/14 schedule, is it possible to group those into 14 days in a row, then 14 off in a row? And do you get vacation on top of this? Also, that requirements do you have for an off the street Captain?
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Re: AirSprint Fleet Transition

Post by indieadventurer » Fri Mar 30, 2018 3:43 pm

Do you operate to Europe with the 450 or foresee possible expansion with even larger aircraft over the coming decade with reach into Europe/Asia?
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Re: AirSprint Fleet Transition

Post by hamstandard » Sun Apr 01, 2018 11:08 am

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With the 14/14 schedule, is it possible to group those into 14 days in a row, then 14 off in a row? And do you get vacation on top of this? Also, that requirements do you have for an off the street Captain?
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Now that would make the job interesting to me. Air Sprint might just find that they could find themselves some longer term employees if this was an option. A certai mpercentage of pilots don't always look at the almighty dollar as 100% of what they are interested in. And while it is completely understandable that the company drafts you to fill in, an option for getting a two days back instead of double pay would be a nice option. It keeps both types of employees happy, which equates to a higher likelyhood of less turnover.
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Re: AirSprint Fleet Transition

Post by hamstandard » Thu Apr 05, 2018 7:54 am

Hmmm..... no response?
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Re: AirSprint Fleet Transition

Post by AirSprint HR » Thu Apr 05, 2018 8:02 pm

I'll leave it to Adam to answer the above in more detail but a few quick answers:

- The bidding system has a set maximum of 8 work days in a row. You can select the option to allow the system to book you for up to 13 days in a row.
- AirSprint introduced Europe with the Legacy 450s last fall.

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Re: AirSprint Fleet Transition

Post by AirSprintInc » Fri Apr 06, 2018 7:21 pm

hamstandard wrote:
Sun Apr 01, 2018 11:08 am
Marinth wrote:
Fri Mar 30, 2018 1:29 pm
With the 14/14 schedule, is it possible to group those into 14 days in a row, then 14 off in a row? And do you get vacation on top of this? Also, that requirements do you have for an off the street Captain?
Now that would make the job interesting to me. Air Sprint might just find that they could find themselves some longer term employees if this was an option. A certai mpercentage of pilots don't always look at the almighty dollar as 100% of what they are interested in. And while it is completely understandable that the company drafts you to fill in, an option for getting a two days back instead of double pay would be a nice option. It keeps both types of employees happy, which equates to a higher likelyhood of less turnover.
Hello Folks,

Sorry for the delayed reply, it’s been a busy week and I am currently trying to make my way to Wichita. :)

As James said, there are rules in the PBS limiting the maximum number of days on reserve to 8. However, you can sign a waiver (push a button in the bidding system), that allows you to work up to 13 days. The maximum number of consecutive days off is simply as many as you can string together within the rules of the PBS.

For direct entry Captains we are looking for 4500 hours, ATPL, jet and corporate time an asset but not required. Internally we will upgrade our pilots to a Captain seat with 3500 hours when the seniority, ability, and job performance is there.

For the time being I would expect directly entry Captain positions will most likely fall into the CJ Series fleet. The Legacy Captain positions are preferably filled internally. Once in a Captain seat we generally require 2 years in that position before requesting transfer to another aircraft type, unless circumstances require an early move.

Hope that helps!

Cheers,

Adam
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Re: AirSprint Fleet Transition

Post by AirSprintInc » Fri Apr 06, 2018 7:24 pm

indieadventurer wrote:
Fri Mar 30, 2018 3:43 pm
Do you operate to Europe with the 450 or foresee possible expansion with even larger aircraft over the coming decade with reach into Europe/Asia?

We do operate to Europe with the Legacy 450. Currently we have seen operations to Scotland, France, and Portugal. Asia has not been discussed as an operational consideration as of now.

Cheers,

Adam
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Re: AirSprint Fleet Transition

Post by hawker driver » Sat Apr 07, 2018 8:49 am

I took a look at your web site and might have missed the section on crew bases.

Do you offer home basing?
What are your bases?

Any bonuses paid?
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Re: AirSprint Fleet Transition

Post by AirSprint HR » Wed Apr 11, 2018 1:32 pm

hawker driver wrote:
Sat Apr 07, 2018 8:49 am
I took a look at your web site and might have missed the section on crew bases.

Do you offer home basing?
What are your bases?

Any bonuses paid?
Take a look at Adam's post from March 27th on the previous page for base details. There is no bonus plan currently in effect.

Regards,

James
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Re: AirSprint Fleet Transition

Post by contactapproved » Tue Oct 16, 2018 5:20 pm

I see a new job ad up for Captains and F/O's with the Ottawa, Toronto and Montreal bases. Nothing currently mentions the secondary base structure that was supposed to be coming into place...? Is this something that is still in the works or was it an idea that was axed? I would be very interested in tossing in a resume if there were any opportunities out of YWG.
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Re: AirSprint Fleet Transition

Post by Blueontop » Thu Oct 18, 2018 2:40 pm

contactapproved wrote:
Tue Oct 16, 2018 5:20 pm
I see a new job ad up for Captains and F/O's with the Ottawa, Toronto and Montreal bases. Nothing currently mentions the secondary base structure that was supposed to be coming into place...? Is this something that is still in the works or was it an idea that was axed? I would be very interested in tossing in a resume if there were any opportunities out of YWG.
Secondary bases are now an option and YWG would qualify based on the criteria needed.
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Re: AirSprint Fleet Transition

Post by AirSprintInc » Thu Oct 18, 2018 4:00 pm

contactapproved wrote:
Tue Oct 16, 2018 5:20 pm
I see a new job ad up for Captains and F/O's with the Ottawa, Toronto and Montreal bases. Nothing currently mentions the secondary base structure that was supposed to be coming into place...? Is this something that is still in the works or was it an idea that was axed? I would be very interested in tossing in a resume if there were any opportunities out of YWG.
Hi Contact Approved,

Secondary bases are indeed in place, we currently have 8 pilots based at various sub-bases across the country, including 2 in Winnipeg. With aircraft operating across the country, we need to balance our crewing levels at the various bases to ensure adaquet coverage. Currently we are showing a need for pilots based in our main bases of Toronto and Montreal, or our sub base of Ottawa.

While Winnipeg is not an immediate need, our planned growth over the next few months will certainly see us looking to fill positions further West so I encourage you to submit a resume.

You may also contact me directly at mnr@airsprint.com and I would be happy to answer any questions you may have about AirSprint or future opertunties.

Matt Rolleman
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Re: AirSprint Fleet Transition

Post by C-GGGQ » Thu Oct 18, 2018 5:34 pm

How busy are your new F/O's these days? Curious as to realistic flight hrs either per month or year and how long your 2500 hr F/O would need to make the 3500 to get a shot at upgrade (obviously seniority is another matter all together)
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Re: AirSprint Fleet Transition

Post by snoopythecaptain » Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:53 pm

I work for a Medevac company northern ontario flying a PC12/45 and 47 as a FO. My first year pay is $40,000. Second years we have bonus $0.10 per mile. 10 days ON and 5 days OFF like your company. And i got hired when i had 500ish hours. Question is, why would you think a guy that has 1500 hrs want to become a PC12 FO and getting $30,000?? When Westjet encore, porter jazz are hiring at 1000 hrs for their Dash 8.
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Re: AirSprint Fleet Transition

Post by C-GGGQ » Fri Oct 19, 2018 7:56 am

They don't have PC12's anymore. Their mins are 2500 hrs and $62K year 1. Not sure what info you are looking at
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Re: AirSprint Fleet Transition

Post by snoopythecaptain » Fri Oct 19, 2018 8:29 am

Maybe the original post should delete these if they are getting rid of their pc12. It add confusion if you are replacing all your pc12 with cessna jet and still posting requirement and salary for pc12. Just saying

PC12 First Officer
CPL
Total Time: 1500 hours
PIC Time: 250 hours

Salary Scale:

PC12 First Officer
Year 1: $30,000
Year 2: $32,000
Year 3: $34,000
Year 4: $36,000
Year 5: $37,500
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Re: AirSprint Fleet Transition

Post by AirSprintInc » Fri Oct 19, 2018 8:36 am

snoopythecaptain wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:53 pm
I work for a Medevac company northern ontario flying a PC12/45 and 47 as a FO. My first year pay is $40,000. Second years we have bonus $0.10 per mile. 10 days ON and 5 days OFF like your company. And i got hired when i had 500ish hours. Question is, why would you think a guy that has 1500 hrs want to become a PC12 FO and getting $30,000?? When Westjet encore, porter jazz are hiring at 1000 hrs for their Dash 8.
Good Morning Snoopy,

We no longer operate the PC12 and have transitioned to an all Jet fleet, I believe that may be some old information you have found there. The PC12 is a great machine and I hope you are enjoying it as much as I did!

Thanks!
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How busy are your new F/O's these days? Curious as to realistic flight hrs either per month or year and how long your 2500 hr F/O would need to make the 3500 to get a shot at upgrade (obviously seniority is another matter all together)
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They don't have PC12's anymore. Their mins are 2500 hrs and $62K year 1. Not sure what info you are looking at
Good Morning GGQ,

We recently transitioned to our new schedule options and with just a little over a month of data it would be difficult for me to predict with accuracy what the average yearly flying totals would be. I can tell you that in the past, on an 18 day on, 10 day off schedule pilots were logging between 500-600 hours a year, and I suspect that most pilots will see close to that, so roughly two years to go from 2500 to 3500 hours.

Also, one correction, our starting pay for Jet First Officers is $55,000.00 on our standard 16/12 schedule (16 days on, 12 days off). Full pay and schedule information can be found in our Pilot Career Guide.

Thanks!

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Re: AirSprint Fleet Transition

Post by Diadem » Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:37 am

snoopythecaptain wrote:
Fri Oct 19, 2018 8:29 am
Maybe the original post should delete these if they are getting rid of their pc12. It add confusion if you are replacing all your pc12 with cessna jet and still posting requirement and salary for pc12. Just saying
The original post? On page 1 of 11? Dated March 22, 2007? Why would they go back more than 11 years to edit all of their previous posts? Reading comprehension is not your strong suit, is it?
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Re: AirSprint Fleet Transition

Post by C-GGGQ » Fri Oct 19, 2018 12:02 pm

AirSprintInc wrote:
Fri Oct 19, 2018 8:36 am
C-GGGQ wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 5:34 pm
How busy are your new F/O's these days? Curious as to realistic flight hrs either per month or year and how long your 2500 hr F/O would need to make the 3500 to get a shot at upgrade (obviously seniority is another matter all together)
C-GGGQ wrote:
Fri Oct 19, 2018 7:56 am
They don't have PC12's anymore. Their mins are 2500 hrs and $62K year 1. Not sure what info you are looking at
Good Morning GGQ,

We recently transitioned to our new schedule options and with just a little over a month of data it would be difficult for me to predict with accuracy what the average yearly flying totals would be. I can tell you that in the past, on an 18 day on, 10 day off schedule pilots were logging between 500-600 hours a year, and I suspect that most pilots will see close to that, so roughly two years to go from 2500 to 3500 hours.

Also, one correction, our starting pay for Jet First Officers is $55,000.00 on our standard 16/12 schedule (16 days on, 12 days off). Full pay and schedule information can be found in our Pilot Career Guide.

Thanks!

Matt R
Ah yes, I was looking at the 18/10 I guess. I'm about 2000 shy of your min's but I definitely keep an eye on the thread and how things are progressing for down the road
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Re: AirSprint Fleet Transition

Post by Zaibatsu » Fri Oct 19, 2018 4:13 pm

I’d imagine you’re having trouble filling those bases because nobody can afford to live there on what you’re paying. The sub bases are you realizing that problem.

Im a bit shy of hours for a DEC position, lots of relevant experience (turbine, glass/FMS, high density airspace, US operations) but there isn’t very much to tempt me away from my current job which is 15 GDOs a month and pays more in a cheaper place to live.
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Re: AirSprint Fleet Transition

Post by Yycjetdriver » Fri Oct 19, 2018 4:57 pm

Zaibatsu wrote:
Fri Oct 19, 2018 4:13 pm
I’d imagine you’re having trouble filling those bases because nobody can afford to live there on what you’re paying. The sub bases are you realizing that problem.

Im a bit shy of hours for a DEC position, lots of relevant experience (turbine, glass/FMS, high density airspace, US operations) but there isn’t very much to tempt me away from my current job which is 15 GDOs a month and pays more in a cheaper place to live.

Tell us more about how you don’t meet their requirements but wouldn’t apply anyways ...... 🤪
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Re: AirSprint Fleet Transition

Post by ehv8oar » Fri Nov 23, 2018 8:29 am

Haha I also don't meet the requirements but certainly would apply.

Would 1800 hours tt (around 500 turboprop) be just way to low for an FO position?

Also would Halifax be a sub-base?

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