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I don't. Mind people cussing me, as long as they expect it in return. Parking lot/behind the hangar play can be liberating as well, just cheat right out of the gates.leftoftrack wrote:As for the owner calling you a name when he's mad, you can always stay home with you mom and dad. They won't call you mean names when you do stupid shit.
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Have you beat up a lot of your employers? How has that worked out for you to now?rigpiggy wrote:I don't. Mind people cussing me, as long as they expect it in return. Parking lot/behind the hangar play can be liberating as well, just cheat right out of the gates.leftoftrack wrote:As for the owner calling you a name when he's mad, you can always stay home with you mom and dad. They won't call you mean names when you do stupid shit.
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Its closer to a year these days if you have your studying done.leftoftrack wrote:Nice to know that someone else who has not worked there doesn't think it's a good place to work
Ramp being 2 years at perimeter I don't think the knob would be at 3000
Theres no bond, and I dont know too many places where a 500hr turboprop FO has the opportunity to make over 40k within your first year of flying.
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Don't know much about entry level jobs these days. The wait was closer to 2.5 years at perimeter when I went north. NWA was the only place that I knew in western Canada that got you flying within 6 months. It was interesting flying I had no expenses other than food and loans. I made good money had a good time. That's my experience others have different experiences. FWIW I'd recommend itogc wrote:Its closer to a year these days if you have your studying done.leftoftrack wrote:Nice to know that someone else who has not worked there doesn't think it's a good place to work
Ramp being 2 years at perimeter I don't think the knob would be at 3000
Theres no bond, and I dont know too many places where a 500hr turboprop FO has the opportunity to make over 40k within your first year of flying.
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The reason the wait time is so short is because at least one person quits every month. Literally.
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Anybody have any current information on these guys? Thanks so much in advance!
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if they are paying you back your own pay, IT'S NOT A BONUS
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I know a guy who works there, here's what he said to me recently (copied and paste):
Wait time for a right seat on twin or 1900 is between 9 months and 1 year. You might get to fly the 206/207 in the mean time.
Accomodation is provided and is actually nice (11 room camp)
The work is pretty easy, but it might be long hours. Nothing happens in the winter because of the opened winter road and the lack of canoes/hunters to fly.
You're being paid minimum salary (13$/hour), but keep in mind you have no rent to pay.
Bonds:
1900: 1 year, 20k
DHC6: 1 year, 15k
207: 1 year, 3k
That 250$ thing we had to pay back in the days is not applicable anymore, which is a good thing.
Things have changed a lot since Travis took over the company from Warren.
Don't expect to fly 1000 hours every year, I'd say 1st year, you'll get 200, next year 700...
Twin Otter operation is very different from 1900. Twin is very summer intensive, expect to duty out your 703 during the 4 months season. 1900 is more regular, but is super repetitive (always the same two routes, same 6 airports).
Let me know if you want more info, I will try to get it for you.
Wait time for a right seat on twin or 1900 is between 9 months and 1 year. You might get to fly the 206/207 in the mean time.
Accomodation is provided and is actually nice (11 room camp)
The work is pretty easy, but it might be long hours. Nothing happens in the winter because of the opened winter road and the lack of canoes/hunters to fly.
You're being paid minimum salary (13$/hour), but keep in mind you have no rent to pay.
Bonds:
1900: 1 year, 20k
DHC6: 1 year, 15k
207: 1 year, 3k
That 250$ thing we had to pay back in the days is not applicable anymore, which is a good thing.
Things have changed a lot since Travis took over the company from Warren.
Don't expect to fly 1000 hours every year, I'd say 1st year, you'll get 200, next year 700...
Twin Otter operation is very different from 1900. Twin is very summer intensive, expect to duty out your 703 during the 4 months season. 1900 is more regular, but is super repetitive (always the same two routes, same 6 airports).
Let me know if you want more info, I will try to get it for you.
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Sorry if I wasn't clear... The 200 hours is your first year (including your ramp time) and you get more flying time when you actually have a PPC.You need to go live up north in the middle of nowhere, making minimum wage for almost a year until you are allowed to fly a plane. Then, you need to sign a 20K Bond for minimum one year, of which in your first year of flying you only get 200 hours anyways. I bet the FO pay isn't much more then minimum wage either...
Usually the FO spend 1.5/2 years at the company.
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I’ve heard Northwright is a VERY good place to get started. Most outfits have a much longer wait on the ramp, and the opportunity to fly the 206/207 and get PIC time is gold. Get in there before they run out or AVGAS.
Plus in my opinion, places like Medicine Hat, Moosonee, Yellowknife, Sioux Lookout, Norman Wells, and Inuvik all pretty much suck equally. They all get cold AF in the winter and the only thing to do is watch movies and get drunk. In the summer you can also fish and get drunk and mob around on an ATV.
Plus in my opinion, places like Medicine Hat, Moosonee, Yellowknife, Sioux Lookout, Norman Wells, and Inuvik all pretty much suck equally. They all get cold AF in the winter and the only thing to do is watch movies and get drunk. In the summer you can also fish and get drunk and mob around on an ATV.
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To sum it up for Laguardia... don't quit your day job mate... you clearly don't have the passion to fly for a living.. good thing you make what.. 70k per year? Ohh sounds like you are set for life..
good things come to those who wait... you don't seem to have the long term outlook dude... pilot life can be gravy... if you put in your time.. it's fun.. how fun is your office gig lmao!
good things come to those who wait... you don't seem to have the long term outlook dude... pilot life can be gravy... if you put in your time.. it's fun.. how fun is your office gig lmao!
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Sweeeet. How's the view from your cubicle?
Who wants to spend 1 day of their life as a 9-5 office drone? I can't imagine a more soul-sucking existence.
The jobs where I made $30-70k a year were the best jobs I ever had and the best times of my life. I can imagine flying a twin otter in the Mackenzie Mountains would be similarly exhilarating.
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I’ve heard North-Wright called a lot of different things, a good place never ever ever ever being one of them. You should have said things like “terrible pay, slave labour, asshole management, shotty maintenance, old worn out airplanes (1900’s excluded)”, the list goes on and on.mixturerich wrote: ↑Tue Feb 12, 2019 3:34 pm I’ve heard Northwright is a VERY good place to get started. Most outfits have a much longer wait on the ramp, and the opportunity to fly the 206/207 and get PIC time is gold. Get in there before they run out or AVGAS.
Plus in my opinion, places like Medicine Hat, Moosonee, Yellowknife, Sioux Lookout, Norman Wells, and Inuvik all pretty much suck equally. They all get cold AF in the winter and the only thing to do is watch movies and get drunk. In the summer you can also fish and get drunk and mob around on an ATV.
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You might be able to say that about a lot of small operators unfortunately, but you are incorrect or exaggerating about most of those items. All starting pay sucks in this industry. That being said, they do offer overtime as far as I am aware. Old worn out airplanes? Again that is every small operator. Shotty maintenance? Insulting to the dedicated crew of people of maintenance people up there.Yycjetdriver wrote: ↑Wed Feb 13, 2019 8:31 amI’ve heard North-Wright called a lot of different things, a good place never ever ever ever being one of them. You should have said things like “terrible pay, slave labour, asshole management, shotty maintenance, old worn out airplanes (1900’s excluded)”, the list goes on and on.mixturerich wrote: ↑Tue Feb 12, 2019 3:34 pm I’ve heard Northwright is a VERY good place to get started. Most outfits have a much longer wait on the ramp, and the opportunity to fly the 206/207 and get PIC time is gold. Get in there before they run out or AVGAS.
Plus in my opinion, places like Medicine Hat, Moosonee, Yellowknife, Sioux Lookout, Norman Wells, and Inuvik all pretty much suck equally. They all get cold AF in the winter and the only thing to do is watch movies and get drunk. In the summer you can also fish and get drunk and mob around on an ATV.
I know a very large number of people that are doing extremely well in their careers now, that started at Northwright, meanwhile skipping ahead of those who chose to work for different companies in bigger towns, only to end up working the ramp for 2-3 years and never getting any PIC time.
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When did you work there? Recently or..?mixturerich wrote: ↑Wed Feb 13, 2019 8:45 amYou might be able to say that about a lot of small operators unfortunately, but you are incorrect or exaggerating about most of those items. All starting pay sucks in this industry. That being said, they do offer overtime as far as I am aware. Old worn out airplanes? Again that is every small operator. Shotty maintenance? Insulting to the dedicated crew of people of maintenance people up there.Yycjetdriver wrote: ↑Wed Feb 13, 2019 8:31 amI’ve heard North-Wright called a lot of different things, a good place never ever ever ever being one of them. You should have said things like “terrible pay, slave labour, asshole management, shotty maintenance, old worn out airplanes (1900’s excluded)”, the list goes on and on.mixturerich wrote: ↑Tue Feb 12, 2019 3:34 pm I’ve heard Northwright is a VERY good place to get started. Most outfits have a much longer wait on the ramp, and the opportunity to fly the 206/207 and get PIC time is gold. Get in there before they run out or AVGAS.
Plus in my opinion, places like Medicine Hat, Moosonee, Yellowknife, Sioux Lookout, Norman Wells, and Inuvik all pretty much suck equally. They all get cold AF in the winter and the only thing to do is watch movies and get drunk. In the summer you can also fish and get drunk and mob around on an ATV.
I know a very large number of people that are doing extremely well in their careers now, that started at Northwright, meanwhile skipping ahead of those who chose to work for different companies in bigger towns, only to end up working the ramp for 2-3 years and never getting any PIC time.
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Mixturerich, I was just wondering if you working there during the almost 4 years I spent there or maybe not at all???Yycjetdriver wrote: ↑Wed Feb 13, 2019 9:02 amWhen did you work there? Recently or..?mixturerich wrote: ↑Wed Feb 13, 2019 8:45 amYou might be able to say that about a lot of small operators unfortunately, but you are incorrect or exaggerating about most of those items. All starting pay sucks in this industry. That being said, they do offer overtime as far as I am aware. Old worn out airplanes? Again that is every small operator. Shotty maintenance? Insulting to the dedicated crew of people of maintenance people up there.Yycjetdriver wrote: ↑Wed Feb 13, 2019 8:31 am
I’ve heard North-Wright called a lot of different things, a good place never ever ever ever being one of them. You should have said things like “terrible pay, slave labour, asshole management, shotty maintenance, old worn out airplanes (1900’s excluded)”, the list goes on and on.
I know a very large number of people that are doing extremely well in their careers now, that started at Northwright, meanwhile skipping ahead of those who chose to work for different companies in bigger towns, only to end up working the ramp for 2-3 years and never getting any PIC time.
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You’re missing my point. I’m saying it’s pretty similar conditions to any small operator but the progression is actually faster in terms of doing your time on the ground.Yycjetdriver wrote: ↑Wed Feb 13, 2019 2:30 pmMixturerich, I was just wondering if you working there during the almost 4 years I spent there or maybe not at all???Yycjetdriver wrote: ↑Wed Feb 13, 2019 9:02 amWhen did you work there? Recently or..?mixturerich wrote: ↑Wed Feb 13, 2019 8:45 am
You might be able to say that about a lot of small operators unfortunately, but you are incorrect or exaggerating about most of those items. All starting pay sucks in this industry. That being said, they do offer overtime as far as I am aware. Old worn out airplanes? Again that is every small operator. Shotty maintenance? Insulting to the dedicated crew of people of maintenance people up there.
I know a very large number of people that are doing extremely well in their careers now, that started at Northwright, meanwhile skipping ahead of those who chose to work for different companies in bigger towns, only to end up working the ramp for 2-3 years and never getting any PIC time.