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Typical sched

#1 Post by CanadianPilotQc » Sat Jan 13, 2018 6:47 am

What is the typical sched for and F/o at porter? hours per month, legs per day, pay, perdiems? and mostly how's the atmosphere in the company. Private message if you want!

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Re: Typical sched

#2 Post by Teeg » Sun Jan 14, 2018 5:58 am

lots of info in previous threads.
as a new hire -> reserve for probably a month. 12 days off regardless
after that its a seniority based bidding system, but quite a bit of variety.
lots of 2 day pairing with a mix of 3 and 4 day legs. also lots of 3 day pairing with 3-4-5 legs per day. Bid it, and see what happens. Per diem 3$ per hour. So a 3 day, 70 hours away from base is....... 210$
atmosphere is rather subjective.
I live where I want, my schedule as a mid senior FO is bearable. Id be interested to hear what a 2 year employee, 1 year Capt at the Hub would say....
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Re: Typical sched

#3 Post by CanadianPilotQc » Sun Jan 14, 2018 8:48 am

Thanks Teeg, appreciate it.
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Re: Typical sched

#4 Post by ascend » Tue May 08, 2018 11:13 am

would anyone know how long it would take to hold single day pairings? Also heard if you get a pairing you don't want you can just dump it, any truth to that??

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Re: Typical sched

#5 Post by chipmunk » Tue May 08, 2018 11:50 am

ascend wrote:
Tue May 08, 2018 11:13 am
would anyone know how long it would take to hold single day pairings?
If you're coming in as an FO, the easy answer (without me going in and looking at the bid awards) is about a year. Upgrades are sitting at the year mark so I'd guess after 10-12 months, if you stay as an FO, you'll likely be able to hold single days if you want them. (They might be low credit single days which means you'll have to work every day except your 12 GDOs.) If you're coming in as a DEC - uhh... a lot more than that (although at a quick glance, a couple of junior CAs - i.e. in bottom ⅓ - are actually holding singles and 2 days this month. We have a commuting policy now so a chunk of the 3 and 4 day pairings seem to go a bit more senior.
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Tue May 08, 2018 11:13 am
Also heard if you get a pairing you don't want you can just dump it, any truth to that??
Short answer - not really. There are a ton of conditions to be able to drop a pairing - sufficient reserve coverage is a big one, plus you have to maintain a certain hour minimum per month. We can also swap with each other and the open flying pot, but this really only works decently at the YTZ base (more people to trade with.)
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Re: Typical sched

#6 Post by ascend » Tue May 08, 2018 6:13 pm

Thanks for reply.
How do splits work? Do pilots ever bid on them?
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Re: Typical sched

#7 Post by chipmunk » Tue May 08, 2018 7:22 pm

ascend wrote:
Tue May 08, 2018 6:13 pm
Thanks for reply.
How do splits work? Do pilots ever bid on them?
Splits/continuous duty - evening flight/short rest/morning flight. Duty day is continuous starting in the evening. A typical example is report at 1930 for a 2030 flight. Land at 2200. Go to the hotel. Morning report is around 0530 for a 0630 departure. Land at 0800, and done for the day. You get one day min credit (4h) for that (unless your flight time equals more than 4h, then you get whichever is greater.)

Yes pilots bid on them. Some pilots hate them. Some pilots love them. If they're open, they're the first thing to be snapped up by pilots on days off due to our overtime pay formula. They're also good for, say, if you're too junior to hold a Sunday off, you can probably hold a split starting on a Sunday night which would give you most of that day off.
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Re: Typical sched

#8 Post by genetic jack hammer » Thu Jun 07, 2018 9:46 am

chipmunk wrote:
Tue May 08, 2018 7:22 pm
ascend wrote:
Tue May 08, 2018 6:13 pm
Thanks for reply.
How do splits work? Do pilots ever bid on them?
You get one day min credit (4h) for that (unless your flight time equals more than 4h, then you get whichever is greater.)
or half of your duty period....i.e. YQG CD's. We used to have a CD to Detroit on the RJ, 9+hrs on the ground, two very short flights (flight time was just about 2hrs total). THESE went really senior due to the high credit (almost 6hr 30min, if i remember correctly, and a decent nights sleep on CD)
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Re: Typical sched

#9 Post by genetic jack hammer » Thu Jun 07, 2018 10:08 am

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Re: Typical sched

#10 Post by chipmunk » Thu Jun 07, 2018 11:28 am

genetic jack hammer wrote:
Thu Jun 07, 2018 9:46 am
chipmunk wrote:
Tue May 08, 2018 7:22 pm
ascend wrote:
Tue May 08, 2018 6:13 pm
Thanks for reply.
How do splits work? Do pilots ever bid on them?
You get one day min credit (4h) for that (unless your flight time equals more than 4h, then you get whichever is greater.)
or half of your duty period....i.e. YQG CD's. We used to have a CD to Detroit on the RJ, 9+hrs on the ground, two very short flights (flight time was just about 2hrs total). THESE went really senior due to the high credit (almost 6hr 30min, if i remember correctly, and a decent nights sleep on CD)
The half duty period credit doesn't apply to our CDs/Splits. Yet....
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Re: Typical sched

#11 Post by PT6onH20 » Thu Jun 07, 2018 11:59 am

They will NEVER pay a crew half duty for a split.

7ish credit hours vs 4? And then they will have crew members holding full reserve blocks again, in a "global pilot shortage" no less.

Remember: crew members on reserve actually LOSE credit hours when they get called in to work a split.

Unless collective bargaining comes into play, I can not see the management getting behind that.
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