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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

#26 Post by jd832 » Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:54 am

BE20 Driver wrote:
Tue Dec 12, 2017 9:14 pm
Too many skippers going to China?
No skippers are going to China. Captains here make pretty good money considering the 1.5 hourly rate above 90 hours and the 2.0 rated above 100 hours in combination with the deployment intensives. Day pairing are very productive so you have lots of time off to pick up over time on your days off at a rate of 2.0.

We have a lot of pilots leaving for AC. I hear about 5 per month. Mostly FO's and a few young captains although I haven't heard of any captains who have left

We also have lots of FO's who don't meet the upgrade matrix of 5,000 total time and 2,000tt on jet aircraft of over 100,000lbs. Rumor has it there is a big upgrade announcement in the new year and they might have to go down the list pretty far.
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

#27 Post by BE20 Driver » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:39 am

90+ hours is a lot of time to be shoehorned into a 737 cockpit. How many days per month are Sunwing guys working on average?
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

#28 Post by nohojob » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:49 am

It really depends on what you bid your base and also of your seniority and as well the time of the year.

But usually max would be around 10, more if you accept gdo flying, min around 4 with a lot of reserve of course.
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

#29 Post by JoeyBarton » Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:11 pm

Thanks for all the info. So is there any GS planned for this winter or not? Usually the TFWs come in around this time of the year. Anyone?
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

#30 Post by digits_ » Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:26 pm

nohojob wrote:
Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:49 am
It really depends on what you bid your base and also of your seniority and as well the time of the year.

But usually max would be around 10, more if you accept gdo flying, min around 4 with a lot of reserve of course.
Does that mean it is a commutable schedule? 10 days on 20 days off? Or not really?
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

#31 Post by nohojob » Wed Dec 13, 2017 3:10 pm

It would be pretty difficult to keep all the day of work together specially if you're junior.
There are quite a few commuters though, so it works for them.

A way to make the commute less painful is to deploy.

For instance if you are based in YYZ and you live in YWG, chances are you can be award the YWG base for the winter.

Or even if your deployed base isn't your home base, at least, you have your crash pad and your car paid plus 1500$ a month.
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

#32 Post by George Taylor » Wed Dec 13, 2017 3:19 pm

13. RATES OF PAY
13.1 Newly Hired FCMs
13.1.1 Newly hired FCMs, for the purposes of seniority, vacation and salary, will be deemed hired on the first day they successfully complete the PPC. The waiting period for Benefits will begin the day the FCM enters the training program.
13.1.2 Newly hired FCMs will be required to sign a training bond.
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

#33 Post by BE20 Driver » Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:18 am

nohojob wrote:
Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:49 am
It really depends on what you bid your base and also of your seniority and as well the time of the year.

But usually max would be around 10, more if you accept gdo flying, min around 4 with a lot of reserve of course.
10+ reserve?

How many reserve days are guys on the bottom getting a month?
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

#34 Post by nohojob » Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:36 am

If you're flying 10 days than that's it for the month unless you accept overtime /gdo flying.

10 days will amount roughly to 80 to 90 hours credit. The rest of your month will be a mix of gdo and days off.

As for the bottom guys on reserve, I would say around 10 days on reserve. You might fly 2 to 3 days of those.
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

#35 Post by BE20 Driver » Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:15 am

One thing I like about where I'm at now is that there is no reserve system. I never have liked sitting around for the phone to ring.
30 hours a month of actual stick time isn't a lot of time.
Just curious though, how long would it take a guy to get off of reserve and hold a block?
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

#36 Post by Spirit » Thu Dec 14, 2017 2:12 pm

Do you have to go to Europe in the summer or is that optional? Can you get laid off and come back the following winter instead?
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

#37 Post by ant_321 » Thu Dec 14, 2017 3:24 pm

Spirit wrote:
Thu Dec 14, 2017 2:12 pm
Do you have to go to Europe in the summer or is that optional? Can you get laid off and come back the following winter instead?
You can be forced for up to 90 days but with the way things are going now I wouldn't worry too much about it. There are always more than enough people who want to go to Europe. There were a few LOA's offered this past summer. I'm not sure if I would count on getting the whole summer though. There is still a fair bit of flying done at the Canadian bases but obviously not near as much as the winter months.
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

#38 Post by rudder » Fri Dec 15, 2017 8:41 am

What is the assessment of pairings/schedule when the new FT/DT rules kick in January 2019?

Seems that a lot of the longer single day turns will be illegal.
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

#39 Post by JetA Burner » Mon Dec 18, 2017 2:10 pm

Anyone have an idea when call backs will be happening?
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

#40 Post by JetA Burner » Sat Dec 23, 2017 3:14 pm

No call backs yet, and I am assuming none til the new year.

I suppose the next best question is; Does anyone have an idea when ground school starts in Jan and Feb? I would imagine calls would start 2-weeks prior.
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

#41 Post by globaltrainer » Sat Dec 23, 2017 5:15 pm

Hey JetA Burner

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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

#42 Post by backb0ne787 » Sun Dec 24, 2017 1:34 am

I believe they interviewed first two weeks of December and get back to people for January course about 2-3 weeks out from ground school date. When that class starts is beyond me.
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

#43 Post by nohojob » Sun Dec 24, 2017 7:00 am

They can be very slow to advise people (successful or not)
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

#44 Post by JoeyBarton » Tue Jan 02, 2018 11:24 am

Is there a groundschool planned for January?
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

#45 Post by WillyTheFlyer » Thu Jan 04, 2018 2:28 pm

From anyone who was interviewed in December, any call, rumors of ground school, etc...

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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

#46 Post by veritas123 » Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:39 am

Is Sunwing going to contact those interviewed in early December to let them know if they were successful or not? So far they have only contacted those selected for the January ground school.
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

#47 Post by JetA Burner » Mon Jan 15, 2018 2:12 pm

I have yet to hear any rumors or hear back. I haven't even heard of anyone getting a PFO.

My best bet would be a 05 FEB ground school, with calls going out around the 22/23 FEB. Pure shot in the dark guess.
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

#48 Post by Tash12 » Mon Jan 15, 2018 2:46 pm

There may be a delay for new hires as it was just announced there will be some F/O's upgrading to Captain shortly. They may need the groundschool instructors and SIM slots to get the upgrades completed before they resume hiring for F/O's.
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

#49 Post by JetA Burner » Mon Jan 15, 2018 3:08 pm

I was aware of the upgrades for YYZ and YUL, but I was not aware that they would fill the new hire sim slots with upgrades. Thanks for the intel. It is greatly appreciated for those of us playing the waiting game.
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Re: 2018 Pilot Hiring

#50 Post by JoeyBarton » Tue Jan 16, 2018 10:58 am

Was the January gs filled with pilots who interviewed in December?
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