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What is the WAWCON?

#1 Post by flythatwing » Fri Oct 06, 2017 7:47 pm

Hiring is like we have never seen before so trying to make the best decision has to involve some research...

What is the deal for a first year FO? Salary, roster, upgrade time and requirements.

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Re: What is the WOWCON?

#2 Post by Boreas » Fri Oct 06, 2017 8:04 pm

WAWCON!?

Also, realistically, what is Transat's future likely to bring?
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#3 Post by flythatwing » Fri Oct 06, 2017 8:37 pm

Boreas wrote:WAWCON!?

Also, realistically, what is Transat's future likely to bring?
Haha, my bad! WAWCON. I don't know much so you tell me.
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#4 Post by Gilles Hudicourt » Sat Oct 07, 2017 7:29 am

Boreas wrote:WAWCON!?

Also, realistically, what is Transat's future likely to bring?
Many people who work at Rouge have informed me that a certain management person at AC has no qualms to admitting during meetings with pilots that Rouge's Raison d'être is putting Transat out of business.

People should not hold their breath waiting for that to happen.

Although true that we are seeing more and more Rouge aircraft parked next to us in places where Air Canada had never gone, it's just good competition. All captains with thousands of hours of wide body experience are constantly solicited by foreign carriers with offers of several times our present net pay, but virtually no one is leaving. That speaks for itself.
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#5 Post by iamnomaverick » Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:51 am

Disregard.
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Re: What is the WAWCON?

#6 Post by flythatwing » Sat Oct 07, 2017 3:19 pm

So what's the story? Why so much secrecy around starting pay and other conditions there? All I could find is old post and some outdated info on airline central.
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#7 Post by RRJetPilot » Sat Oct 07, 2017 4:05 pm

annual salary 53/67/78/85 fist 4 years
rrsp matching
standby passes spouse and family
jump seat agreement for employees
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#8 Post by flythatwing » Sun Oct 08, 2017 7:20 am

RRJetPilot wrote:annual salary 53/67/78/85 fist 4 years
rrsp matching
standby passes spouse and family
jump seat agreement for employees
Thank you RRJetPilot,

What is the upgrade policy and time frame in YYZ?

Thanks,
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#9 Post by RRJetPilot » Sun Oct 08, 2017 8:34 am

flythatwing wrote:
RRJetPilot wrote:annual salary 53/67/78/85 fist 4 years
rrsp matching
standby passes spouse and family
jump seat agreement for employees
Thank you RRJetPilot,

What is the upgrade policy and time frame in YYZ?

Thanks,
Adam
Upgrade when your number comes up 3-4 years at the moment. YUL takes a lot longer.
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#10 Post by flythatwing » Sun Oct 08, 2017 8:56 am

RRJetPilot wrote:
flythatwing wrote:
RRJetPilot wrote:annual salary 53/67/78/85 fist 4 years
rrsp matching
standby passes spouse and family
jump seat agreement for employees
Thank you RRJetPilot,

What is the upgrade policy and time frame in YYZ?

Thanks,
Adam
Upgrade when your number comes up 3-4 years at the moment. YUL takes a lot longer.
Yeah I forget they are ALPA. Great, thanks again!
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#11 Post by Gilles Hudicourt » Mon Oct 09, 2017 6:50 pm

flythatwing wrote:So what's the story? Why so much secrecy around starting pay and other conditions there? All I could find is old post and some outdated info on airline central.
All union contracts in Canada are public and posted

http://negotech.labour.gc.ca/cgi-bin/re ... ture=en-CA
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#12 Post by AviatPsy03 » Wed Oct 11, 2017 9:57 am

Gilles Hudicourt wrote:
flythatwing wrote:So what's the story? Why so much secrecy around starting pay and other conditions there? All I could find is old post and some outdated info on airline central.
All union contracts in Canada are public and posted

http://negotech.labour.gc.ca/cgi-bin/re ... ture=en-CA
Merci Gilles des infos! J'ai quelques amis qui sont rentré chez Transat, bien fière pour eux :)

Bonne journée.
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#13 Post by flythatwing » Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:28 am

Gilles Hudicourt wrote:
flythatwing wrote:So what's the story? Why so much secrecy around starting pay and other conditions there? All I could find is old post and some outdated info on airline central.
All union contracts in Canada are public and posted

http://negotech.labour.gc.ca/cgi-bin/re ... ture=en-CA
Thank you Gilles, I actually searched that site over and over again but couldn't find the new contract. Only the previous one.
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#14 Post by Gilles Hudicourt » Fri Oct 13, 2017 8:41 am

flythatwing wrote: Thank you Gilles, I actually searched that site over and over again but couldn't find the new contract. Only the previous one.
It's there all right, the 2015 one. So are the contracts of all the other Canadian airlines that have Unions......


http://negotech.labour.gc.ca/cgi-bin/re ... &p25=&p34=
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#15 Post by flythatwing » Fri Oct 13, 2017 3:29 pm

Gilles Hudicourt wrote:
flythatwing wrote: Thank you Gilles, I actually searched that site over and over again but couldn't find the new contract. Only the previous one.
It's there all right, the 2015 one. So are the contracts of all the other Canadian airlines that have Unions......




http://negotech.labour.gc.ca/cgi-bin/re ... &p25=&p34=

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#16 Post by Victory » Wed Dec 20, 2017 11:18 pm

When you upgrade to Captain do you go to Year 1 Captain pay or do years of service carry over?
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Re: What is the WAWCON?

#17 Post by flythatwing » Fri Dec 29, 2017 9:36 am

Victory wrote:
Wed Dec 20, 2017 11:18 pm
When you upgrade to Captain do you go to Year 1 Captain pay or do years of service carry over?
I'm also very interested in the answer.
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#18 Post by TFTMB heavy » Sat Dec 30, 2017 6:54 am

After 3 years of service you go to year two.
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Re: What is the WAWCON?

#19 Post by Flathorizon » Tue Jan 02, 2018 2:53 pm

Hey guys so when exactly is Transat getting their A320Ceo online?

Is future dual qualification on A320/330 a must or can you bid only one type?

And finally...for a first year YYZ base fo what is the take home pay (considering it is 54,000/year gross). What can you make on per diems on top of that net pay?

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Re: What is the WAWCON?

#20 Post by Hot Coffee » Sun Jan 14, 2018 4:02 pm

The 320 ceos from Thomas Cook will start to come online in March. At least that’s the deal for now.
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Re: What is the WAWCON?

#21 Post by FlyB » Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:09 am

Just noticed that there is no pilot posting on the website... I am assuming they still need pilots since a few are leaving to big red. Does AT have enough applicants or what?
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