Wilderness North Air Tractor

[Oil Burner]

I think they are looking for camp workers who want to fly part-time

[MAD DOGGY]

There are two companies in NW ontario operating them. One outta Red Lake and the other outta Pickle Lake. They are from two seperate companies that are also competing with the Hawkers. They mostly fly to Sandy Lake, North Spirit and Lansdowne House.The longer trips are still owned by Wasaya plus they have the Weibenville strip. They take more than 5mins. to fill, but about 10mins. to drain with a pump they carry in a small cargo are under the pilot section of the fuselage. Looks like fun to fly!

[ODA]

So it hauls 4000 litres of fuel and how much a mile does it cost? Can it go on floats and haul fuel?

[rum-runner]

So it hauls 4000 litres of fuel and how much a mile does it cost? Can it go on floats and haul fuel?

NO

[Liquid Charlie]

My only comment is why are they using an airplane that hauls so little - Oh ya -- the ontario gov in their wisdom build 3500' strips -- damn u think it would make more sense to haul 25000 ltrs at time -- add 1000' to those runways and no one would ever worry about running out of fuel.

[carholme]

I'm still waiting to see what you guys think of the night VFR in that part of the country.

carholme

[rum-runner]

My only comment is why are they using an airplane that hauls so little - Oh ya -- the ontario gov in their wisdom build 3500' strips -- damn u think it would make more sense to haul 25000 ltrs at time -- add 1000' to those runways and no one would ever worry about running out of fuel.

What aircraft are you using for fuel hauls? 25000 ltrs is 5500 gallons that is a pretty
good load.

[Liquid Charlie]

Pretty good indeed and with a 4in hose can be unloaded in 17 minutes

[Fuel Boss Hog]

The interesting thing is that they are going to operate day and night VFR to northern reserves. The night VFR should prove to be quite interesting. Would be interested to see how many takers there will be for the night trips.

http://www.airtractor.com/at-802-bulk-fuel-tanker

carholme[/quote]

They have 3 "takers".....it's an awesome position and aircraft.

[Cat Driver]

What does it have for instrumentation?

[Rudder Bug]

But why at night? I know there are takers but ,hey, that's a single on wheels if I understand right. Who's poor enough to make a living out of flying a single, non-factory made, night VFR in NWO, and loaded like a mule with fuel? I know, a turbine never fails but I'd chicken out.

[bandit1]

It's not a job for everyone but it ain't worse than the boys flying DC-3's 24/7 all over the place at night.

[Cat Driver]

It's not a job for everyone but it ain't worse than the boys flying DC-3's 24/7 all over the place at night.

I can remember losing an engine a couple of times at night in a DC3 and the other one got me to an airport.

I wonder if it would have been worse if I didn't have that other engine?

[nacho]

I went for an interview and was offered the job, but I didn´t think there was enough money in it for the risk envolved as they don´t have a dump handle anymore. the mods include a jettison system and it takes too long in my opinion. they can haul 1000 gallons.
That is the reason why they dont have the Transland gate anymore

I just delivered a Thrush here in Argentina and was always carrying a full hopper of jet(500 gallons) BUT you bet my dump handle was in good working order !!

Landing one of these with a full load is not a big deal, but one needs a bit of practice.(and power !!)

If you loose it on take off or landing and need to dump, you ae pretty much fu$%ed.

My 2 cents.......

[kingeddie]

Many OCs have the OPS Spec for night VFR under aerial work , The question is are they actually using it? I fly single engine night VFR in NW Ont all the time no big deal if you are trained and capable and the aircraft is equipped .. However we must hold a valid IFR to do so (company rule) . 90 percent of the time truthfully you are IFR . Not something a newbie would want to do . In the summer its light until 11 at times and unless they are double crewed that doesn't leave alot of night to fly in .

Feel free to freak out about night VFR now
.
KE

[Cat Driver]

Feel free to freak out about night VFR now

Why would I freak out about you flying single engine night?

[rum-runner]

So, a few seasons have gone by. Has anyone heard how the AT802 is making out hauling fuel.

Have they been operating at night? There were a few comments on this thread insinuating that single/night/vfr was not really a smart thing to do.

[jamesbay]

There are 2 802's flying out of Nakina, 1 is a tandem config and the other is a single seat I believe, they have been going at it for a few months now I think. They are hauling in the ballpark of 800 gallons a pop.

[kingeddie]

I was in YRL for a couple of weeks this winter in Feb and the 2 wilderness 802's were going non stop .

[tiny]

Maybe I'm just green... if your flying single engine VFR and the engine stops you hit the trees regardless of how bright and sunny it is. Also its not really any harder to navigate with one engine so the chances of getting lost are not less than a twin. So basically what is so unnerving about single engine night VFR?

Tiny