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Everything I said was a lie.
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skybaron wrote:Everything I said was a lie.
Burn! :lol:
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Couple more I thought of - apologies if they have been done.

To set T/O flaps, roll the aileron down (the one you're looking at!) and match the flaps (I think - dammit now I'm going to have to look).

The flap selector is always 'down' unless you are cruising.

If you are heavy and the nose just seems too high in cruise, 'crack' the flaps just a scotche, the tail will come up and so will your cruise speed from 'glacial' to 'tortoise.'

29/19 is an approved power setting..... so is METO. Consult the manual.

If you have an oil-pressure drop that stops and is steady about 10 pounds lower than normal, your oil screen is bypassing and your engine is about to kak. Earth is your friend NOW.

Check your oil cap's integrity once in a while, lest your passenger be anointed.

The jiggleth of yon fuel pressure gauge doth foretell the demise of cacophony.

Taketh off on the full one lest the sea rise up like a tempest and smite thee.

You are not allowed to open the sump drain and just let the goo go in the sea/river anymore. Get a can.
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xsbank wrote:Couple more I thought of - apologies if they have been done.

To set T/O flaps, roll the aileron down (the one you're looking at!) and match the flaps (I think - dammit now I'm going to have to look).

The flap selector is always 'down' unless you are cruising.

If you are heavy and the nose just seems too high in cruise, 'crack' the flaps just a scotche, the tail will come up and so will your cruise speed from 'glacial' to 'tortoise.'

29/19 is an approved power setting..... so is METO. Consult the manual.

If you have an oil-pressure drop that stops and is steady about 10 pounds lower than normal, your oil screen is bypassing and your engine is about to kak. Earth is your friend NOW.

Check your oil cap's integrity once in a while, lest your passenger be anointed.

The jiggleth of yon fuel pressure gauge doth foretell the demise of cacophony.

Taketh off on the full one lest the sea rise up like a tempest and smite thee.

You are not allowed to open the sump drain and just let the goo go in the sea/river anymore. Get a can.

Aileron to right extend flap until flap the second rib on the ailerons = take off flap.

I even cruise with the flap selected "down". Saves a step later.

Flaps cracked in cruise - improves visibility as well as small effect on cruise speed. I think it might improve top cylinder cooling.

I check the oil cap on every take off. I had a passenger get a very oily leg about 22 years ago.

I don't always take off on the full tank, but check the quantities faithfully every take off. Sometimes we do 4 or five takeoffs on a trip and only 3 could be on a full tank. :rolleyes:

I basicly agree with XSBank.

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Thanks for the clarification, Bob. I'm really pushing my luck with these brain cells. Right about the second rib!
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If you are heavy and the nose just seems too high in cruise, 'crack' the flaps just a scotche, the tail will come up and so will your cruise speed from 'glacial' to 'tortoise.
Works for the Otter too.
The jiggleth of yon fuel pressure gauge doth foretell the demise of cacophony.
Verily, he doth speak the truth. :D
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Aileron to right extend flap until flap the second rib on the ailerons = take off flap.
By 'rib' you guys mean corrugation?

I always thought it was just 'lined up' with.

Whatever it takes though to correspond with the indicator though eh.

I'll have to try that.

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"Whatever it takes though to correspond with the indicator though eh."

Actually it's a way to find T/O flap in spiteof the indicator!
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bronson wrote:"Whatever it takes though to correspond with the indicator though eh."

Actually it's a way to find T/O flap in spiteof the indicator!
Yeah - I see what you're getting at there. I'm not a high time Beaver driver. Not at all.
Just a few hours in the left seat.

Wrenched on them a little though and I can say it suprises me the indicator works at all.

They probably are not very accurate.
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I found the best way to get top performance from Beavers was to buy them flowers. :smt008
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I prefer picking 'ditch-flowers' - (as opposed to buying them)
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What power/MAP setting to use when setting up for an approach from cruise?


Obvious - Beaver Green here.


Looking for a smooth technique to approach, one where the passengers would barely notice - flap extension, and higher rates of descent...

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Whatever it takes to get the rate of descent you want.. Normal approach should be 75 MPH. Prop to full fine, power to modulate descent rate, attitude to control A.S. This config with T/O flap should give you about 8oo fpm, if memory serves.

Go easy on the flaps, only making very small adjustments as your speed changes; ie, instead of going from that "C-Hair for cruise" to T/O all at once, just select down and do half-pumps every few seconds or so, adjusting elevator pressure to keep the attitude you need. Don't let the nose pop up with flap application. Bringing the flaps down slowly as the airspeed bleeds off prevents that tendancy significantly.

Like anything.
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Not gonna lie, cant wait to get back in the ol' girl :D
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Rowdy wrote:Not gonna lie, cant wait to get back in the ol' girl :D
:supz:
wish i was with ya on that flight Rowdy! Hows the arctic? You still in up there?
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How much load can the baggage area take? I heard it was only around 75 pounds or so, but looking at - for example - West Coast Air's website, they say max baggage allowance per passenger is 25 pounds.

So, if the beaver is loaded with 5 - 6 passengers, with 25 pounds of bags each, wouldn't the baggage area be technically over gross? :smt017
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WONGER

A good starting point is the float locker. Trouble is the stuff can get damp
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excluding float lockers...
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Oh how I miss the old -2. Hoping the boss gets his redone and back online. As for approaches I always tried to set it up farther back and just pull two or so inches off at a time to allow for better cooling. This also prevents the "jake-break" effect once in the final phases of the approach. I though the aft baggage you could get 50lbs in a rod tube and I thought the aft baggage was 120lbs? or was that 50 in the tube and 70 on the shelf?
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CGZMT wrote:I though the aft baggage you could get 50lbs in a rod tube and I thought the aft baggage was 120lbs? or was that 50 in the tube and 70 on the shelf?

:smt100

Rod tube, Shelf? I think that's more used on outpost camp beavers, perhaps to accommodate fishing gear (really i don't know). Some of the beavers I've noticed don't come with the shelf or rod tube. Passengers luggage are stocked one on top of the other behind the rear bench seat. I know there are many mods/variations out there, but does anyone know what the load limit is behind the rear bench seat??
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