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nobertadil
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A&P to AME

Post by nobertadil » Fri Apr 06, 2018 3:07 am

Hello Every one
I am considering moving to Canada in my future and know they have a different aviation maintenance licensing system , but can't find much info on how my A&P would transfer up there.

Do any of you have experience with this or have any more info?

Thanks in advance
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Re: A&P to AME

Post by chowda » Fri Apr 06, 2018 6:08 pm

It's not recognized, just as ours isn't down there.

Contact transport canada for more precise info but you will be needing a completed task logbook and will writing exams. Basically you are an experienced apprentice up here.
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Re: A&P to AME

Post by DonutHole » Sun Apr 08, 2018 9:58 am

Can he work on American aircraft in Canada as an a and p?
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Re: A&P to AME

Post by Heliian » Sun Apr 08, 2018 10:37 am

DonutHole wrote:
Sun Apr 08, 2018 9:58 am
Can he work on American aircraft in Canada as an a and p?
I guess, would he need an i.a.?
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Re: A&P to AME

Post by jd832 » Tue Apr 10, 2018 6:58 pm

I'm also in the same situation. I have a FAA Mechanics certificate with both A & P ratings. I would like to have my AME as I live in Canada now. I'm currently working as a pilot, but would love the option of doing maintenance work in the General Aviation field at a local airport as miss it very much.

Any recommendation would be very much appreciated.

Unfortunately I don't have the time to go to school and take a full course all over again.
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Re: A&P to AME

Post by Pacqing » Thu Apr 12, 2018 5:58 am

I believe this topic has been covered before, perhaps a search would get some information. Best to go to your local TC office and speak to someone. There used to be a correspondence course (ICS????) offered out of the US that is was approved but I'm not sure of its status now.
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Re: A&P to AME

Post by TMSL » Sun May 20, 2018 7:56 am

FAA A&P is not recognized by TC. 4 year apprenticeship is required to obtain an AME license.

Going the other direction, a TC AME license is recognized by the FAA in regards to obtaining an A&P license to some extent. 3 written exams, a practical exam and a verbal exam is required. I completed my A&P certification a couple years back in 5 days.

Hope that helps?
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Re: A&P to AME

Post by David.shimp » Sat Oct 13, 2018 5:38 pm

Hi guys, I'm just wondering if anyone has found the best way to go about this A&P -> AME transfer. I understand it's quite a process but I'm looking for a good starting point. It's difficult to get a clear answer from TC, but I did see someone mention in another forum here that they might have an online type of groundschool standardization for foreign mechanics starting the process. Can anyone confirm?
I only worked for one year as an A&P in the states, so I am definitely still in the apprentice stage, but I'd love to find out if there's a way to cut out some of the schooling. Really hoping to not have to go through that again.
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Re: A&P to AME

Post by David.shimp » Sat Oct 13, 2018 5:40 pm

DonutHole wrote:
Sun Apr 08, 2018 9:58 am
Can he work on American aircraft in Canada as an a and p?
That's my question too. Instead of going through all the work of transferring to an AME, is there a way to work for specific companies on US aircraft that would legally accept an A&P?
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Re: A&P to AME

Post by jiajxin » Sun Feb 09, 2020 1:53 am

To answer your question, you will be required to meet the conditions of initial issuance in accordance section 403.03 of the Canadian Aviation Regulations (CARs) and section 566.03 of the Airworthiness Manual (AWM). You must demonstrate to Transport Canada that you meet the requirements by providing documented proof such as age, citizenship, training, knowledge, experience and skill.

Please be advised that Canada has no bilateral agreements pertaining to the acceptance of basic training. You will be required to meet our requirements.

Please note that there is no conversion of any maintenance licences in Canada. All applicants must meet the requirements for initial issuance.

Also, please note that we do not accept assessments of education made by World Education Services (WES) towards the basic training requirement.

Here’s a brief overview of the requirements pertaining to the issuance of the Canadian Aircraft Maintenance Engineer (AME) licence for applicants who have not successfully completed a Transport Canada approved maintenance basic structured training course with knowledge credit:

26-0638 AME Licence Application Supplement Process

For persons who have successfully completed Basic Training other than TCCA approved (i.e. foreign, military, self-paced, distance learning, etc.)

You must fill out and submit Form 26-0638 along with proof of age, citizenship and training.
Age: You must provide proof of Age and must be at least 21 years of age at the time of issuance of an AME licence.

Citizenship: You must provide proof of citizenship. (e.g. valid passport or valid aviation personnel license showing citizenship of the holder issued by the state of which he/she is a citizen).
Training: You must submit your graduation certificate, together with a syllabus of the training received, a transcript of marks indicated in percentage (e.g. 80%) and a transcript of the theoretical and practical hours of training in each subject area. The training must be applicable to the rating sought.

Note: The AWM Chapter 566.07(1) allows an individual who holds / held during the specified period a valid AME licence conforming to Annex 1 of the ICAO Convention to be eligible for an exemption towards the basic training requirement. An original or certified true copy of the AME licence must be submitted with the application for assessment.
Aircraft type training courses, in full or part, cannot be used to fulfill the basic (structured) training
Requirement.
Knowledge: You will be required to demonstrate that you meet the knowledge criteria through written technical examinations, once your supporting documentation has been assessed as meeting the requirements. Each exam is accompanied by a charge as specified in schedule IV of Part 1, subpart 4 of the CARs.

Note: Technical and Regulatory examinations must be attempted in Canada
24-0083 Application Process

After meeting the knowledge requirement, you will be required to submit form 24-0083, along with supporting documentation establishing that you meet the experience and skill requirements, and successfully complete the regulatory examination.

Experience: In order to meet the experience requirement, you must have acquired the applicable amount of total, specialty, and civil aviation maintenance experience set forth in the Airworthiness Manual (AWM) Chapter 566 Appendix A. This is demonstrated by providing letters of employment which contains:

a. The start and end date of employment, as applicable;
b. Responsibilities in the organization; and
c. Types of aircraft you work/worked on.

Skill: In order to meet the skill requirement, you must have performed a representative selection of eligible maintenance tasks, over the full range of applicable systems and structures. Those tasks being comprised of not less than 70 percent of the items listed in Appendix B of AWM Chapter 566 that are applicable to the rating sought and to the aircraft, systems or components for which the experience is claimed.

Military skill is recognized if work was accomplished on an aircraft that has received an equivalent civil type certificate. However, not less than 10 percent of the overall maintenance tasks claimed must have been performed while working on civil registered aircraft maintained in accordance with civil air regulations.
Regulatory Examination: You must apply using the attached form 24-0083 and pay the applicable fee of 115$ as specified in Schedule IV of Part I, Subpart 4 of the CARs. If you have successfully completed the technical exams and have obtained at least 42 months of experience out of the 48 months total experience, you may apply to attempt the regulatory exam. If you are approved, you will have 12 months to complete the exam. The regulatory exam has a fee of 100$.

However, if you do not successfully complete the skill and experience requirements within 12 months of the initial application date, you will have to resubmit a form 24-0083 and repay the fee of 115$. The application remains valid for 12 months from the date of acceptance by Transport Canada.
Note: All documentation submitted in support of your application for an AME licence are either originals or certified true copies, translated in English or French, and signed by:

a) A notary public or commissioner for oaths;
b) A TC Civil Aviation Safety Inspector/Officer or Administrative (Operational) Support personnel; or
c) The holder of a valid Canadian AME Licence.

*Individuals certifying the documentation are required to indicate their name, region or AME licence number (as applicable) and the date of certification.


AME LICENCE ISSUANCE: After meeting the requirements of age, citizenship, training, knowledge, experience and skill, and have successfully completed the regulatory examination, you will be issued a Canadian AME license for the rating sought.

Useful Links:

Recording form for maintenance tasks accomplished, to prove Skill print from the web page.
https://www.tc.gc.ca/en/services/aviati ... cence.html

Experience Requirement Chart:
http://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/civilaviation/r ... 01-262.htm . Refer to Table of Requirements chart.

Maintenance Staff Instruction, MSI 18 - Aircraft Maintenance Engineer (AME) Licensing Procedures
https://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/civilaviation/ ... 8-2683.htm

You may submit your application and supporting documentation at:

Transport Canada
Operational Airworthiness (AARTM)
330 Sparks Street
Ottawa, Ontario
K1A 0N5
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