Any opinions on either of the two colleges? What can you expect from one or the other? I know Mohawk is pretty new, but does that matter?
How are the classes? What kind of hands on work, or is it all the same?
Thanks a lot!
Mohawk VS Centennial College
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Mohawk VS Centennial College
Hey guys,
Any opinions on either of the two colleges? What can you expect from one or the other? I know Mohawk is pretty new, but does that matter?
How are the classes? What kind of hands on work, or is it all the same?
Thanks a lot!
Any opinions on either of the two colleges? What can you expect from one or the other? I know Mohawk is pretty new, but does that matter?
How are the classes? What kind of hands on work, or is it all the same?
Thanks a lot!
Re: Mohawk VS Centennial College
Hi Shake,
Just wondering why you're only considering those two?
I know some about both from an apprentice point of view and...just my opinion but...I rather like, in general, the students coming out of Canadore. They've been around for about 40 years and are very well established and have a great facility.
Mohawk is pretty new and their equipment is fairly old. I understand they do a lot of training out of the museum there and it's kind of all over the place. I've heard they are looking at moving to a permanent home but they don't have a single place that all their courses in the program run out of and I've heard a few complaints from students about travelling from campus to campus on a daily basis.
Centennial doesn't have the best reputation and their equipment isn't very well supported by the school. I've heard horror stories about the avionics course and the lack of servicable equipment in the program and have seen first hand the results of that. Students claim that it is pretty easy to pass the program based on how exams are controlled and administered but in my experience their marks really don't tell the story.
They have such a student base in the Toronto area that I think it's a classic example of the school having bodies in the seats and therefore not putting much into capitalizing the program itself.
An apprentice of mine told me once that when he was there they had one functioning Pitot-Static test set and the instructor had to explain how it worked to about 25 students gathered around...and that was their training on the Pitot-Static tester!
Believe me...it showed...and a few airspeeds have felt the brunt.
I was able to vist Fanshawe College in London this year and was very impressed by their avionics program and the equipment. I haven't seen any school invest that kind of coin in Ontario. They have all the latest test equipment and signal generators and some very ingenious training aids. Their fleet leaves a bit to be desired but they claim that the space they're in limits them right now and they also claim they are moving on airport next year into a stand alone aviation campus. ( I hear they've purchased the Jazz Hanger at YXU)
They seem to have big plans for their aviation training programs and are adding a Maintenance program this fall.
London is a cheap place to live and close to Toronto if that's what you're looking for.
Just my humble opinions so take it for what it's worth. All schools are required to perform hands-on training and Fanshawe's model for the avionics program was 50/50. I would assume most of them are running close to that.
Cheers
Just wondering why you're only considering those two?
I know some about both from an apprentice point of view and...just my opinion but...I rather like, in general, the students coming out of Canadore. They've been around for about 40 years and are very well established and have a great facility.
Mohawk is pretty new and their equipment is fairly old. I understand they do a lot of training out of the museum there and it's kind of all over the place. I've heard they are looking at moving to a permanent home but they don't have a single place that all their courses in the program run out of and I've heard a few complaints from students about travelling from campus to campus on a daily basis.
Centennial doesn't have the best reputation and their equipment isn't very well supported by the school. I've heard horror stories about the avionics course and the lack of servicable equipment in the program and have seen first hand the results of that. Students claim that it is pretty easy to pass the program based on how exams are controlled and administered but in my experience their marks really don't tell the story.
They have such a student base in the Toronto area that I think it's a classic example of the school having bodies in the seats and therefore not putting much into capitalizing the program itself.
An apprentice of mine told me once that when he was there they had one functioning Pitot-Static test set and the instructor had to explain how it worked to about 25 students gathered around...and that was their training on the Pitot-Static tester!
Believe me...it showed...and a few airspeeds have felt the brunt.
I was able to vist Fanshawe College in London this year and was very impressed by their avionics program and the equipment. I haven't seen any school invest that kind of coin in Ontario. They have all the latest test equipment and signal generators and some very ingenious training aids. Their fleet leaves a bit to be desired but they claim that the space they're in limits them right now and they also claim they are moving on airport next year into a stand alone aviation campus. ( I hear they've purchased the Jazz Hanger at YXU)
They seem to have big plans for their aviation training programs and are adding a Maintenance program this fall.
London is a cheap place to live and close to Toronto if that's what you're looking for.
Just my humble opinions so take it for what it's worth. All schools are required to perform hands-on training and Fanshawe's model for the avionics program was 50/50. I would assume most of them are running close to that.
Cheers
Re: Mohawk VS Centennial College
When I was trying to choose a school for AME (M), I visited the Centennial aviation campus as well as the Canadore campus in North Bay. I have not been to mohawk, but I do know of one fellow that studies there. To say the least I was not very impressed with the Centennial layout of the Aviation program. I walked in through a couple classrooms and into what I believed to be their hangar lol. Not too sure as to how their program fairs in comparison to others in Ontario, but im safetly assuming that with what i have heard from peers that it isn't the best. I may be a little bias as to which school is the best in terms of getting a full and thorough theoretical and practical education ( Canadore), plus your right on YYB Airspace so your emersed in aviation culture as much as possible. Now I dont know exactly where you come from but if location near a big city (toronto) is a big deal to you and you still want a decent education then Centenial may be a good choice for you. If you can bear to live away from family and friends for a couple years and get an outstanding education, I would do it.
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Re: Mohawk VS Centennial College
I had been considering Centennial but was told by many people in the field not to even think about going there, was strongly encouraged to go to Canadore. I had my heart set on Centennial because it was closer to home (Hamilton at the time) and a very good friend of mine was going there. Thankfully I listened to the people who told me to choose Canadore, and had a great 2 years there, met lots of great people, worked on decent equipment and most importantly, got a good education.
My friend went to Centennial, he took avionics. Outdated equipment, you are not at an airport but instead in the middle of Scarborough, in the same campus as automotive programs etc. He showed me a video of how the M guys did a weight and balance project on a 172 there, it involved several students lifting the 172 by hand and someone putting the scales under. They had jacks but were not allowed to use them. You could argue they are being taught how to improvise and be resourceful, but at college you should be taught how to do things the right way, and in time you will learn how to improvise safely on your own.
Mohawk was not an option at the time, and I don't have sufficient knowledge of their program to comment. I do know they have moved out of the Museum and into the Westjet hangar in Hamilton, but I was told last year by one of my former instructors at Canadore (I know, biased opinion, but just giving the information I have) that students graduating from there were not getting jobs. There could be many reasons for this, in the end it can be a case of the student only gets out of a program what they put into it. I'm not sure if that program has TC accreditation either, something very important to look into.
So, if you're still reading, I'd strongly encourage Canadore, it's only a 3 hr drive to GTA from there. Instructors are great, city is fun for the 2 years you'll be there, and it seems to have a slightly stronger reputation in the industry than Centennial. Many students get hired by Voyageur which is based in North Bay and seems to hire students every year, and at least until recently Jazz used to come up to the college and interview for positions in the soon to be closed YXU base. Other companies are known to come to the college to interview, or contact instructors and ask for student's applications.
Confederation is another choice but further from home and I don't know much about it.
Hope some of this has helped, sorry it's so wordy, I tend to get excited about encouraging Canadore! haha.
My friend went to Centennial, he took avionics. Outdated equipment, you are not at an airport but instead in the middle of Scarborough, in the same campus as automotive programs etc. He showed me a video of how the M guys did a weight and balance project on a 172 there, it involved several students lifting the 172 by hand and someone putting the scales under. They had jacks but were not allowed to use them. You could argue they are being taught how to improvise and be resourceful, but at college you should be taught how to do things the right way, and in time you will learn how to improvise safely on your own.
Mohawk was not an option at the time, and I don't have sufficient knowledge of their program to comment. I do know they have moved out of the Museum and into the Westjet hangar in Hamilton, but I was told last year by one of my former instructors at Canadore (I know, biased opinion, but just giving the information I have) that students graduating from there were not getting jobs. There could be many reasons for this, in the end it can be a case of the student only gets out of a program what they put into it. I'm not sure if that program has TC accreditation either, something very important to look into.
So, if you're still reading, I'd strongly encourage Canadore, it's only a 3 hr drive to GTA from there. Instructors are great, city is fun for the 2 years you'll be there, and it seems to have a slightly stronger reputation in the industry than Centennial. Many students get hired by Voyageur which is based in North Bay and seems to hire students every year, and at least until recently Jazz used to come up to the college and interview for positions in the soon to be closed YXU base. Other companies are known to come to the college to interview, or contact instructors and ask for student's applications.
Confederation is another choice but further from home and I don't know much about it.
Hope some of this has helped, sorry it's so wordy, I tend to get excited about encouraging Canadore! haha.
Re: Mohawk VS Centennial College
I'll be going Fanshawe this fall for aircraft maintenance, and from what i'm told they will be receiving the transport Canada accreditation in a few weeks. I was also told they may be increasing the amount of time earned in the program from 18 to 19 months, but that's not for sure yet. When asked about camc/ccaa accreditation, they told me they were waiting to see the outcome of their government funding cuts.
Re: Mohawk VS Centennial College
fyi here's what fanshawe says about the CCAA accreditation.
"With respect to your query about CCAA, there has been a lot of discussion since we began looking at offering aviation programs about which accreditations we would seek in the first couple of years and our primary goal was to obtain TC accreditation and branch out where there was value for both the programs and the students. The faculty who teach in the program have a lot of experience with and insight on the various accrediting bodies. CCAA is a former sector council and there has been a change in their funding earlier this year and their position at this time is somewhat unclear, so at this time we will not be pursuing CCAA accreditation. From the personal experience of our faculty and staff and that of our contacts, when CCAA certification was requested in a job posting, TC certification has been accepted in lieu."
"With respect to your query about CCAA, there has been a lot of discussion since we began looking at offering aviation programs about which accreditations we would seek in the first couple of years and our primary goal was to obtain TC accreditation and branch out where there was value for both the programs and the students. The faculty who teach in the program have a lot of experience with and insight on the various accrediting bodies. CCAA is a former sector council and there has been a change in their funding earlier this year and their position at this time is somewhat unclear, so at this time we will not be pursuing CCAA accreditation. From the personal experience of our faculty and staff and that of our contacts, when CCAA certification was requested in a job posting, TC certification has been accepted in lieu."
Re: Mohawk VS Centennial College
Centennial's program can't be all bad, considering how some of their students have done at recent skills competitions:
2013: http://www.centennialcollege.ca/news/te ... ompetition
2010: http://www.centennialcollege.ca/transpo ... /gomesryan
2013: http://www.centennialcollege.ca/news/te ... ompetition
2010: http://www.centennialcollege.ca/transpo ... /gomesryan
Re: Mohawk VS Centennial College
I've worked with some fantastic technicians that have graduated from Centennial.Centennial's program can't be all bad, considering how some of their students have done at recent skills competitions:
IMO any school in Canada can't be all that bad if they are TC accredited and regularily audited.
However there are definitely some better than others...
