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AMS (Aircraft Maintenance Systems) Tracking Software

#1 Post by Fox 3 » Thu Nov 27, 2008 4:02 pm

Does anyone else use this system where they are? I would love to hear your opinion on it. I use it and I think it's a worthless piece of shit, but that's just my opinion.

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#2 Post by iflyforpie » Thu Nov 27, 2008 4:03 pm

I use Microsoft Excel and it works great! 8)
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#3 Post by TwinOtterLover » Thu Nov 27, 2008 7:31 pm

i think i know what you mean by AMS but what really are they just so i can figure out for sure if what im thinking is what you mean
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#4 Post by impress » Thu Nov 27, 2008 8:07 pm

I use it and find that like most systems, its only as good as the information you give it. If your trained well I sfind it works great and gives you better stats/reports than most other programs ive used.
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#5 Post by Fox 3 » Fri Nov 28, 2008 10:25 am

There are a lot of bugs in the programming, plus it pretty much requires someone to be maintaining it 24x7x365. But my favorite part about them is they sell you the software for $15,000 and then when you find all the bugs they won't give you the newest version because you don't pay them the additional $1800 a year. They call this a "technical support" fee.

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#6 Post by If it's got wings » Fri Nov 28, 2008 9:16 pm

I am just in the process of getting it up and running in our operation and have not found any huge bugs yet, we did have a little bit of trouble getting it on the network as they had a little different idea of how it should work than my IT guy did but they changed things up to getting it to work the way we wanted it to. I have found it is much better than the Excel spread sheets that were being used when I took over. I have used winair extensively and the purchase price and even the tech support fee is a fraction of what they wanted to charge me, not to mention the salesman tearing a strip off me for not buying Winair. Sorry to hear your having problems with it, almost everyone I talked to had nothing but great things to say about it. One operator that is using it is opertating 60 aircraft and raved about it, they also were a former Winair customer. Everybody seems to have a different idea of what a good program should do and what their needs are, though I suppose programing issues would be something no one would be looking for, I know we used another program at one of the places I was at and when we had programing issues they up charged us to fix them ontop of the support fee because we had not upgraded to the latest and greatest version which included the fix.
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#7 Post by b1ngnx33 » Fri Nov 28, 2008 10:36 pm

Software? Computers?

Bah, do it the old way.

Binders, more binders, and MORE binders.

No search engines. ahhhh. Spending 30 minutes trying to find the one AD, or time limit warning.

Its great.

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#8 Post by adampenner » Sat Nov 29, 2008 10:54 am

Here's a new web based Maintenance Tracker program that we have developed for our own company and now offering it to other AMOs.
http://aircraftadmin.ca/
The price is right, especially for lighter aircraft, it can be accessed from anywhere on the web, and it sends alarms to your email and cell phone.
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#9 Post by warner » Fri Dec 12, 2008 7:05 am

if it's so good buddy why weren't you using it before TC shut things down for "maintenance" ?
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#10 Post by Fox 3 » Sun Jan 11, 2009 4:48 pm

I just found out that Winair has come out with an answer to what AMS was trying to do. They have made a stand alone product that you purchase and there are no monthly fees, etc. It's clear they've realized the error in their ways. The purchase price is around $2500.00 so no where near the $15000.00 AMS cost. We did a demo the other day and I think I'm wiling to drop AMS like a bad habit. The Winair program was and is a far superior program, and now it's affordable to. Anyone interested in buying AMS?


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Warner...I don't think that was called for. Maybe they use it now as a result of what happened? You just came off sounding like a jerk there.
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#11 Post by Gibi » Mon Jan 12, 2009 6:47 am

We have been using RAAS (remote access aviation system) from Aviation Intertec for about 7 years now and has worked well. Has helped me find a lot of things to increase TBO times. Full elog and web based. :prayer:
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#12 Post by architexture » Tue Dec 08, 2015 1:12 pm

Any updates here on what your using for your tracking software?

AMS vs Winair?

What about the costs vs the benefits?

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#13 Post by DonutHole » Tue Dec 08, 2015 4:25 pm

Gibi wrote:We have been using RAAS (remote access aviation system) from Aviation Intertec for about 7 years now and has worked well. Has helped me find a lot of things to increase TBO times. Full elog and web based. :prayer:
You really have to know your way around that system before it will work for you... but once it's figured out its still only as good as the operator.

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#14 Post by all_ramped_up » Tue Dec 08, 2015 5:56 pm

My experience with AMS is limited right now but I haven't found it too horrible to work with... yet?

Although having come from working with crap like Delta's SNAPP, Amelia and then a gamut of Dispatch software there's worse out there!
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#15 Post by architexture » Thu Dec 10, 2015 8:03 pm

Thanks! are there any other options out here?
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#16 Post by hangarline » Mon Dec 14, 2015 7:22 pm

architexture

Here is another option.

http://cafam.net/index.htm
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#17 Post by architexture » Tue Dec 29, 2015 11:51 am

hangarline wrote: Here is another option.
http://cafam.net/index.htm
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#18 Post by shaune » Mon Feb 01, 2016 10:17 pm

We have been using AMS for 6 years with minimal glitches.....nothing that shut us down. It is only as good as the information going into it. We aren't using AMS to its full potential......the old guys still like paper but what we are doing with AMS has been good. Search function works well, I like how maintenance and inventory are separate but work together. Tech support when we first started was real good, I find we don't require tech support at all now. Not sure on the cost of the whole show....not my department as I am just a user. I doubt it's cheap.
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#19 Post by architexture » Tue Mar 01, 2016 11:56 am

shaune wrote:We have been using AMS for 6 years with minimal glitches
Thanks for your feedback.

Interesting to hear about the maintenance and inventory are separate but work together.

Hard to get those old guys away from the paper. Do they find it hard to use?
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#20 Post by shaune » Fri Mar 11, 2016 6:30 pm

The old guys ( this would include me ) have no more trouble than doing a electronic attendance, or an expense claim sheet....actually AMS maybe be easier. It was initially "designed" by an AME for his own shop and it has since expanded. I think Richard sold AMS to some big international firm awhile back.
There are other good systems out there, I have used Winair and Silicon wings but this one seems to fit our needs.
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#21 Post by Juggernaut » Sun Jun 26, 2016 7:43 pm

I used win-air for about 10 years. Great program. It does invoicing, stores, RFQ's, shipping/receiving, make batch labels with bar code scanners and of course maintenance tracking. You can buy pre built templates for common aircraft types like kings airs or build your own template and and print off all your future maintenance tasks. I really liked it. I'm at WJ now and they use TRAX for all that stuff. It's a big program. I liked win-air better. The one thing win-air lacks is statistical reporting. Not saying win-air doesn't have it, just other programs ie: TRAX have more of it.
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