Night Hours, Cheap hour building

[Beefitarian]

That would suck.

[Shiny Side Up]

Beats me. They don't pay their regional pilots squat, either.

I think aviation in the USA is like farming in Canada. How
long can do it, depends on how much money you start with.

That's the thing I've never understood why people do, and it seems more prevalent in flying (and flight schools ) down there than up here. You charge what you need to charge to stay in business. If you can't turn enough business charging what you need to charge, then the market isn't strong enough to warrant your business. Its really that simple. The same thing apply to making a living, if you can ear enough to stay afloat, then you need to reconsider how you're going about things. Almost every instrucot I've ever spoke to down there - with some exceptions for high time specialty guys - is paid peanuts. Stuff like $5/ hour out of that charged price. Crazy stuff.

[Beefitarian]

We all complain here about too many guys and too few jobs leading to voluntary rape via bonds etc. They have way more guys down south.

Maybe you two don't travel much, or only eat in fine restaurants when you do. I like me some in-n-out, Carl's jr. Moochie's meatballs and more, Fazolli's, Sonic... You see a perfectly normal looking white 30 something year old guys working in those places down there. In Canada all those jobs including the low paying flying ones are beneath a pilot. Unless he or she is up north on the ramp, that's somehow paying your dues.

Us Americans can be happy with having enough to pay the bills and live with our family. If you're flying an airplane and might be working your way up to a better job, even better.

[Colonel Sanders]

One difference between Canada and the USA is the
cost of living. Stuff just doesn't cost as much down
there.

For example, a couple days ago, drove across the
St Lawrence River to Ogdensburg, NY, where car
gas was 97 cents/litre. Car gas on the north side
of the river in Canada was $1.22/litre. No one
knows why.

Food and cell phones are much cheaper in the
US, too. No one can explain why.

Cars and trucks are cheaper in the USA. No one
knows why that is, either.

Plenty of excuses for all of the above, but at the
end of the day, you don't need to earn as much
money in the USA to get the same standard of
living.

[Beefitarian]

You can't be serious. we were just talking about the fact that canucks would never accept such low wages. Do you think the owner of any company is going to cut profits to pay you? Pass that cost on to the customer.

Much of higher costs here is tax. In our populated areas we operate our cities like any modern American one. Add in the costs of ad scandals, boat manufacturing subsidies, whatever other government costs the liberals are not smart enough to hide like the conservatives...

Ever talk about your personal taxes with one of them? You have never noticed we have a slightly lower population density to share the cost of anything.

[photofly]

For example, a couple days ago, drove across the
St Lawrence River to Ogdensburg, NY, where car
gas was 97 cents/litre. Car gas on the north side
of the river in Canada was $1.22/litre. No one
knows why.

Healthcare. Which seems like the bargain of the century to me.

[Shiny Side Up]

Plenty of excuses for all of the above, but at the
end of the day, you don't need to earn as much
money in the USA to get the same standard of
living.

While the cost of living down there is somewhat smaller, the wage difference is somewhat grotesque and certainly doesn't make up for the living cost. The crazy thing I find is that to me it would seem that the market down there could sustain a substantial increase in the value of an instructor, though I get the feeling that wouldn't result in an improvement in their wages.

[FenderManDan]

One difference between Canada and the USA is the
cost of living. Stuff just doesn't cost as much down
there.

For example, a couple days ago, drove across the
St Lawrence River to Ogdensburg, NY, where car
gas was 97 cents/litre. Car gas on the north side
of the river in Canada was $1.22/litre. No one
knows why.

Food and cell phones are much cheaper in the
US, too. No one can explain why.

Cars and trucks are cheaper in the USA. No one
knows why that is, either.

Plenty of excuses for all of the above, but at the
end of the day, you don't need to earn as much
money in the USA to get the same standard of
living.

I hope you are not serious.... Taxes + middle men + less peeps = high pricess, we are willing to pay.

Hey CS, you mentioned in the past you liked SRV, Clapton and i guess guitars a bit. Try to buy american made fender guitar from the american online store. Nix you gota buy from the place that gets it from the canadian "distributor".

The other day I was at Indigo-Chapters and just glanced at some aviation magazines. They were sustantialy more expensive in Canada. Oh again we have a "distributor". Give me a friggin break, this is not a 19th century.

Anywho rant over. Back on topic OP try looking at the block time at the smaller towns if possible. I don't know how is the situation in Vancouver and the West, but the GTA is a ripoff if you want to buy a block time. Same price as rental from the FTU.

[Beefitarian]

Do you know how tough it is to run a music store in Canuckistan with the Internet and walmart breathing down your neck? Go to the walmart in Wisconsin and buy back packs and aviation magazines if you hate working people making a fair wage.

Kind of like VLTs and the Eagles have made making a living being an old guy in a crappy bar band impossible.

[CpnCrunch]

Back to the topic: someone in Brantford is selling cessna 150 block time for $60/hr dry in COPA (last minute section May 2013), which is about $85/hr with mogas.

[Bell206]

Thanks CC


I will look into it.