Brampton Flying Club

ca380 · Post by **ca380** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 4:41 pm

Mig to answer all of your questions: They are very fair to the staff and all of the instructors are a great group of people. lol If you guys are reading this! They are very busy, even in the winter time especially with the Flight College. The maintenance guys are great, always there to help if you need something, same goes for flight line. As for Air Caledon, it's down to a couple 152's and a few 172's in the fleet. They are NOT hiring which I know for a fact.

Luscombe · Post by **Luscombe** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 4:41 am

I neglected to mention in my previous post that the maintenance department at BFC are definitely second to none. Extremely knowedgeable AME's and apprentices.

In addition, I found them to be invaluable explaining things to students that created a better, more "well-rounded" student. I even had some of my commercial students spend a day or two getting greasy with the techs to understand what they go through. Although some thought it as a waste of time, most found it quite informative and fun. They were quite closely supervised so they wouldn't hurt themselves (or break anything) which made it a great learning environment.

bizjet_mania · Post by **bizjet_mania** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 5:45 am

As someone who has spent 4 years there let me give you a good rundown of things.

Positive: Good facilities, lounge is nice, they have a pilot shop there although its more expensive than the pilot shops at Pearson

Mechanically, Ive never had a problem with any of their planes and Ive flown every single 172 in their fleet.

Not too far to fly to the practise area

The CFI I know him personally is a great guy and was one of my instructors before he became CFI.

Now for the Negative: Dispatch knows nothing.............

No ILS or VOR at airport, so wait till you have to do your multi-ifr you'll be flying 20 minutes to Waterloo and 20 minutes back at $240/hr plus instructor.

You got alot of low time inexperienced guys there that think they wrote the book on flight instruction, there are few really honest and good instructors and they are slowly leaving for better jobs.

NEEDS A CONTROL TOWER, Ive had to sit 0.2 at the runway because it was just too busy, some guys dont even fly a proper circuit.

Their rates are higher than what you'll find around and you got instructors that will milk you every penny so beware.

And thats the good and the bad of BFC in an unbiased view

monkeyspankmasterflex · Wed Sep 28, 2005 12:52 pm

Anytime I pop my head into the Flt Instr Forum people are talking about BFC. They must have a great PR staff there, assuming any press is good press.

Right Seat Captain · Post by **Right Seat Captain** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 4:13 pm

monkeyspankmasterflex wrote:Anytime I pop my head into the Flt Instr Forum people are talking about BFC. They must have a great PR staff there, assuming any press is good press.

It's not ALL we talk about!

Shtinky · Post by **Shtinky** » Thu Sep 29, 2005 2:43 pm

bizjet_mania wrote:
1. Positive: Good facilities, lounge is nice, they have a pilot shop there although its more expensive than the pilot shops at Pearson

2. Not too far to fly to the practise area

3. The CFI I know him personally is a great guy and was one of my instructors before he became CFI.

4. Dispatch knows nothing.............

5. No ILS or VOR at airport, so wait till you have to do your multi-ifr you'll be flying 20 minutes to Waterloo and 20 minutes back at $240/hr plus instructor.

6. You got alot of low time inexperienced guys there that think they wrote the book on flight instruction, there are few really honest and good instructors and they are slowly leaving for better jobs.

7. NEEDS A CONTROL TOWER, Ive had to sit 0.2 at the runway because it was just too busy, some guys dont even fly a proper circuit.

8. Their rates are higher than what you'll find around and you got instructors that will milk you every penny so beware.

1. Yup you're right!
2. True
3. True as well. CFI seems like a people person. He smiles and makes one feel welcome. A people oriented CFI is an asset because he or she sets the 'tone' for the entire company.
4. Ooohh!!!! Ouch!!!! Try sugar coating your comment first. I flew to Brampton once to pick up a friend for a plane ride. When we came back down I went into the BFC. The dispatchers were friendly and helpful.
5. This is the same for most of the flying clubs. However during those 20 minutes there are other things which you might do. ie simulate an engine fire or failure.
6. This is a snapshot of any flight school.
7. Try sitting on the ground for 0.4 hrs despite a control tower being in place.
8. The rates are higher? Hhmm!!! Maybe. Instructors who will take every penny from you? There's always one in every school.

av8tor_assrope · Post by **av8tor_assrope** » Wed Oct 12, 2005 5:27 pm

I don't want to drag this topic on but I'm just curious to know what the instructor conditions are like. Pay? Flying hrs/month? Easy to get student's or do you have to buy a set of knee pads?

Thanks

Doc · Post by **Doc** » Wed Oct 12, 2005 7:46 pm

I'm going to be in the area next month. Methinks I'll take an "intro" flight and see if there's any hope of me learning to fly? I'll get back to you'sall!

Idriveplane · Post by **Idriveplane** » Thu Oct 13, 2005 3:44 pm

There seems to be alot of negative comments here towards BFC. To "idriveplane" do you know the CFI personally? I do and I assure you he is not a dick. Brampton is very organized and has great staff

I had to deal with him on a serious matter one on one and know for a fact that he isn't the type of person that he appears to be. I'll end it at that

Bliss · Post by **Bliss** » Thu Oct 13, 2005 6:08 pm

did some training there in the late 90's, walked in and asked about multi-ifr training to someone. Once i mentioned that my present job was flying a beaver/otter/185's and i already had 1500 hours they gave me the " oh well then you just want to get it done quick " line.

Was outta there in a month with my multi-ifr and about 5 grand less in my pocket. had the honour of flying with Rick. (great guy, did my multi ride and we spent the whole time talking radial engines)

overall good experience, but like any training school they try and hose you for your money when you walk thru the door.

I can still remember the look on young "maverick's" face behind the counter when he asked me if I had done any other flying besides private and commercial. He almost had a cow when i told him i saved up for my training over the summer flying floats in the bush seeing he was about the same age as me and making peanuts for instructing.

He's still a good friend but i felt sorry for those instructors there, lot's of them around and not a lot of money to be paid out. But i imagine most flying schools are the same.

Chaffey · Post by **Chaffey** » Fri Oct 14, 2005 7:11 pm

http://www.bfcunderground.com/
I used to fly with BFC in Pembroke ontario, great instructors. I also added a post to avcanada about things that went on with brampton, it got taken off in 4 days.. I wonder how long this post will last. I heard a lot of stuff about them, but I've had some experiences and a lot of GOOD ones. Its to bad that ALL the instructors I had are no longer with BFC, or are about to leave BFC.. I liked my instructors there a lot. Its an okay school if you ask me

Chaffey

cyyz · Post by **cyyz** » Fri Oct 14, 2005 10:18 pm

Is Christine still there? I'll come in for an intro flight of my own, how long do they keep you on file?

Northern Skies · Post by **Northern Skies** » Tue Oct 18, 2005 7:22 pm

I only make the trip there to rent KDD, and all I have to say is:

1. The cub is a blast
2. Being in/around the circuit at NC3 is frustrating, especially when everyone wants to do a 5 mile extended downwind. You guys know what I mean.

Navajo-dude · Post by **Navajo-dude** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 10:18 pm

http://www.bfcunderground.com/

Dyck Hertz · Post by **Dyck Hertz** » Sun Oct 30, 2005 6:03 am

did me private and mulit training there. not bad place...but is ekspensive espechully for multi. i chose to get multiifr somewher else

Metro2 · Post by **Metro2** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 4:23 pm

I WOULDN'T GO TO BFC>THEY REALLY PUT YOU IN A SPIRAL DIVE IN TERMS OF ORGANIZATION....AND QUALITY OF TRAINING...OH WELL JUST MY EXPERIENCE..YOU CAN TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT

av8tor_assrope · Post by **av8tor_assrope** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 11:40 pm

pros:

variety. mixed up fleet. everything from your piper supercub, 172r, to the 172 RG, warrior ect ect. you won't get bored. angelo in the shop is amazing and keeps the planes in good condition. a handful of great instructors, one of which is JD (awesome guy and awesome pilot). a great GA airport to train out of. although i couldn't help but chuckle when i would hear the weekend RV8 warriors argue about who's #1 for who's #2 to land.

cons:

the cfi's a snake. a rich guy who bought a job on the board. he's made alot of enemies in his short tenure as cfi at bfc. also, they claim they're cheaper but in reality they're not. it's $200 for the membership, $300 for simulator initiation fee and when i was there, things might have changed now, but they had some bullshit about 10hrs minimum multi time for the multi engine rating. like what the f@ck??? just say i could do it in 7 or 8????

my $0.02 for what it's worth
cheers

767 · Post by **767** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 10:45 pm

master switch · Post by **master switch** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 12:04 pm

you got problemz wit g-unit ma-fa??

aviator777 · Post by **aviator777** » Tue Aug 16, 2011 7:44 am

I am also a graduate of BFC but just to let peoples knw tht u can only get flight line or instructor job at BFC only if ure family member or friend of CFI other wise no job for you and in fact if ure family of CFI u will get more students so tht you will get upgrade to class 2 and get multi time......

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