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Flight school issues

#1 Post by MathieuD » Thu Jan 26, 2017 10:25 am

Hello !!
I'm actually into the CPL program in a flight center. Didn't start the Multi IFR program yet.

I have some issues with it, it is not what I expected when I came in Canada. (if you want more details, contact me in private)
I would like to go to another one, sounds easy like this...

I need to get refund from the school, cause they make you pay some packages, you don't pay after every flights.
I've paid the first package (50h flight time), the problem is, I wanted to finish those 50h and then go to another one.
According to some other students, the school grounds you after 45h until you pay for the next package, means that you cannot finish the 50h that you paid :roll:

It's written on the "refund policy" "the tuition fees are not refundable".
I've already contacted some agencies to know how to do, they are working on it.

Did anybody here have the same problem ? Did anybody leave the school he was training in ?

If you have any advices :idea: , I'll appreciate that.

Thank you very much.
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Re: Flight school issues

#2 Post by photofly » Thu Jan 26, 2017 3:00 pm

Which province are you in?
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Re: Flight school issues

#3 Post by BeaverDreamer » Thu Jan 26, 2017 5:18 pm

I left schools many times for various reasons. Never had any issues at all, but I was always at smaller schools and never payed any money up front.

If you have paid for 50 hours then it seems like you should certainly be entitled to that. Hope you can sort this out! Schools like this ruin flight training but people keep attending them for some reason...
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Re: Flight school issues

#4 Post by Cat Driver » Thu Jan 26, 2017 6:31 pm

If you have paid for fifty hours they must by law give you fifty hours of flying.

If they refuse get it in writing or get a witness to their refusal.

Then go to the better business bureau and lay a complaint and then go on the internet with the results and get their name in public.
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Re: Flight school issues

#5 Post by tango308 » Fri Jan 27, 2017 8:44 am

''According to some students''... Did you try to finish your 50 hrs for yourself? Were you denied?

If so change school and seriously consider legal action. This will never not hold in court.
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Re: Flight school issues

#6 Post by Rookie50 » Fri Jan 27, 2017 12:25 pm

Cat Driver wrote:If you have paid for fifty hours they must by law give you fifty hours of flying.

If they refuse get it in writing or get a witness to their refusal.

Then go to the better business bureau and lay a complaint and then go on the internet with the results and get their name in public.
Agree with Cat. Naming applies a lot of pressure.
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Re: Flight school issues

#7 Post by photofly » Fri Jan 27, 2017 12:49 pm

Which province are you in? It makes a difference.
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Re: Flight school issues

#8 Post by praveen4143 » Sun Feb 05, 2017 11:37 pm

In BC here, PTIB (formerly PCTIA) will also be able to assist with this same problem as they are the regulator for private training institutes.
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Re: Flight school issues

#9 Post by mike123 » Wed Feb 08, 2017 8:03 pm

Go to small claims court.
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Re: Flight school issues

#10 Post by MathieuD » Mon Feb 20, 2017 8:09 pm

I would like to think all of you guys for your amswers !!
I'm actually in BC, I contacted PTIB couple months ago, they tried to help me but, as I didn't sign any comtract with my flight center, which is very strange, they cannot do anything.

If you know any GOOD flight centers just tell me. i don't care if I have to leave BC, I just want to find a good an honest flight center....

Actually I'm looking for another one, I've many choices.
PRO IFR Vancouver
PACIFIC RIM Pitt Meadows
MONTAIR Pitt Meadows / Red deer
PACIFIC AVIATION ACADEMY Pitt Meadows

Thank you again for everything !!
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Re: Flight school issues

#11 Post by Old Dog Flying » Mon Feb 20, 2017 9:00 pm

Stay far away from the last 3 on your list
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Re: Flight school issues

#12 Post by CpnCrunch » Mon Feb 20, 2017 9:57 pm

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Re: Flight school issues

#13 Post by TheStig » Tue Feb 21, 2017 7:51 am

Sorry to hear that your training hasn't been acceptable. My advice is to inform the program administrator that you do not plan on continuing your training with them once your account balance is zero. If they plan on not letting you use all of the 50 hours worth of aircraft time you've paid for they should provide you with a written policy which you could take with you to small claims court. I assume in the original contract which specified that no refunds were given it didn't say anything about maintaining a minimum 5 hour balance?
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Re: Flight school issues

#14 Post by CpnCrunch » Tue Feb 21, 2017 8:53 am

MathieuD wrote: I contacted PTIB couple months ago, they tried to help me but, as I didn't sign any comtract with my flight center, which is very strange, they cannot do anything.
Yes, very strange. Perhaps you should post the name here. Was it in Chilliwack?

Anyway, if you haven't signed any contract you can more easily get your money back (at least legally). A strongly worded letter with threat of legal action will probably do the trick.
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Re: Flight school issues

#15 Post by GAPILOT » Tue Dec 26, 2017 4:27 am

Im pretty sure its Canadian Flight Centre in Boundary Bay or Kamloops (2 bases)
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Re: Flight school issues

#16 Post by 455tt » Tue Dec 26, 2017 10:37 am

MathieuD wrote:
Mon Feb 20, 2017 8:09 pm
I would like to think all of you guys for your amswers !!
I'm actually in BC, I contacted PTIB couple months ago, they tried to help me but, as I didn't sign any comtract with my flight center, which is very strange, they cannot do anything.
Go and see a lawyer! Most lawyers will offer a brief initial consult for free or at a very nominal fee and this would point you in the right direction as to what options are available to you. If you sit on this much longer you will loose your right to take your dispute to court since statutory limitation periods apply.
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