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METAR question: What does "E-S" mean?

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 7:32 pm
by donaldm
CYYZ 2718:18 Z CCA 310°16G23KT 15SM FEW040TCU SCT065 OVC080 25/18 A2984 RMK TCU2SC2AC4 TCU E-S SLP104 DENSITY ALT 2000FT=

Between TCU and SLP104 it says "E-S"

East and less intensity ("-") South?

Re: METAR question: What does "E-S" mean?

Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 7:41 am
by 172_Captain
TCU's east and south

Re: METAR question: What does "E-S" mean?

Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 7:52 am
by jg24
Can't find it in AIM, too lazy too look it up in detail, but it means TCUs in the East to/and South sectors.

Re: METAR question: What does "E-S" mean?

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 6:01 am
by aviatrixfss
E-S means east to south. Directions in Remarks always go clockwise, so if it was E-W it would be east through south to west. East and South would be E+S.
Hope this helps.

Re: METAR question: What does "E-S" mean?

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 7:17 am
by Cat Driver
This is 2017, isn't it about time they release these weather reports in plain language so there would be no need to wonder what it means?

Re: METAR question: What does "E-S" mean?

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 11:14 pm
by frog
Actually you can check the option plain language when you submit your weather request.

Re: METAR question: What does "E-S" mean?

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 3:39 am
by jg24
aviatrixfss wrote:E-S means east to south. Directions in Remarks always go clockwise, so if it was E-W it would be east through south to west. East and South would be E+S.
Hope this helps.
awesome clarification! thanks!

Re: METAR question: What does "E-S" mean?

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 4:05 am
by photofly
Cat Driver wrote:This is 2017, isn't it about time they release these weather reports in plain language so there would be no need to wonder what it means?
The government could never allow that because it would mean half of the meteorology questions in the various Transport Canada written exams would become irrelevant.

Re: METAR question: What does "E-S" mean?

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 4:06 am
by rookiepilot
aviatrixfss wrote: Directions in Remarks always go clockwise, .
Learned something new there.

Re: METAR question: What does "E-S" mean?

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 4:43 am
by frog
photofly wrote:
Cat Driver wrote:This is 2017, isn't it about time they release these weather reports in plain language so there would be no need to wonder what it means?
The government could never allow that because it would mean half of the meteorology questions in the various Transport Canada written exams would become irrelevant.
It actually did cause plain language is available on navcanada website.

Re: METAR question: What does "E-S" mean?

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 8:12 am
by pelmet
frog wrote:Actually you can check the option plain language when you submit your weather request.
I guess it is a good option for some but I can't stand those plain language metrs and forecasts. They take way to long to read as opposed the the traditional format. Which perhaps is why the traditional option is still used. If it wasn't used, it would take much, much longer to read the weather on a flight where you are looking at a whole bunch of TAF's.

So to whoever is in charge....please don't get rid of the traditional format just because a few are too lazy to learn.

Re: METAR question: What does "E-S" mean?

Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 3:46 pm
by Cat Driver
.please don't get rid of the traditional format just because a few are too lazy to learn.
Well I don't feel I was to lazy to learn if I had no need to know.

I have not flown for hire for over twenty years in Canada.

I am used to the European formats for flying IFR and for sure they are different in Europe.

Re: METAR question: What does "E-S" mean?

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 7:20 am
by Beefitarian
Careful Chuck, with the highly educated bunch in charge we're just lucky it has not been modernized by being re-written in rap lyrics style.

Yo yo yo, dawg, we be STORM clouding to the south to the east all up in here!

Re: METAR question: What does "E-S" mean?

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 12:29 pm
by pelmet
Beefitarian wrote:Careful Chuck, with the highly educated bunch in charge we're just lucky it has not been modernized by being re-written in rap lyrics style.

Yo yo yo, dawg, we be STORM clouding to the south to the east all up in here!
CYWG 231800 3625G30 LOL 3/4 BLSN OMG -31/-35 WTF 30.04 RMK ROFLMAO

Basically, this happens anyways when I see this sort of thing.

Re: METAR question: What does "E-S" mean?

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:55 am
by Beefitarian
Excellent!

But as one poster explained if you can lurn the short hand it speeds up reading the 733T H4X wX.