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Ppl self study

#1 Post by rotorspeed » Tue Jan 09, 2018 7:28 pm

[*]pis it true you can self study for TC ppl exam if you document hours. CARs state, ground school, online school, significant self study
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Re: Ppl self study

#2 Post by photofly » Tue Jan 09, 2018 7:45 pm

ground school instruction means classroom-type instruction generally given to one or more persons and covering an organized program of lectures, homework or self-paced study that adheres to an approved training program; (instruction théorique au sol)
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If you can get the right someone to approve the programme, sure.
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Re: Ppl self study

#3 Post by 455tt » Tue Jan 09, 2018 10:17 pm

Not hard at all! There are many smaller FTU's that do not have enough students or staff to run dedicated classroom lectures so they use a combination of homework, self paced study with training manuals or online study etc. As long as the FTU CFI approves and the self study times are getting documented properly and signed for in your PTR this is quite acceptable.

The "right someone" photofly is referring to is the CFI at your FTU - get his or her approval and you're good. Just be sure to get this worked out and planned in advance and not "after the fact".
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Re: Ppl self study

#4 Post by rotorspeed » Tue Jan 09, 2018 10:37 pm

Yeah exactly 45ttt, I never heard of it before but Cfi said ok
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Re: Ppl self study

#5 Post by rotorspeed » Tue Jan 09, 2018 10:47 pm

School I went to closed where I did ground school
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Re: Ppl self study

#6 Post by lauav » Wed Jan 10, 2018 8:18 am

Try to find the CFI and ask him to sign your ground school tim in the PTR
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Re: Ppl self study

#7 Post by lauav » Wed Jan 10, 2018 8:20 am

Can you still find the CFI?
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Re: Ppl self study

#8 Post by 455tt » Wed Jan 10, 2018 8:30 am

OK so now you have to find another school or freelance instructor.

It is important to understand as a customer that flying schools (flying clubs as well!) are first and foremost businesses! The vast bulk of their business revenues are generated from aircraft rentals and dual lessons, not from ground school fees. Therefore you will find that most flying schools and clubs will be very eager and accommodating to assist you if you wish to complete ground school based on primarily on self study. Just tell them what you would like to do and you should have no problems setting this up.
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Re: Ppl self study

#9 Post by flyingcanuck » Wed Jan 10, 2018 7:15 pm

ALso some online courses you can pay for, all self study and then they will provide the recommend letter too.
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Re: Ppl self study

#10 Post by 455tt » Wed Jan 10, 2018 11:48 pm

Yes this is an option as well. I have heard however that this can sometimes create hassles since now you are using 2 FTU's at the same time.

Regardless of whether you prefer self study via training texts with the paperwork and recommend handled by your local FTU or online course with an external FTU and the recommend under their authority, just be sure to first consult with the CFI at your local FTU and see what they suggest in your circumstances.
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Re: Ppl self study

#11 Post by geneticistx » Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:29 am

Think about going on a holiday to Los Angeles and go to this school: http://14daypilot.com/ and converting it to TC...

Just let me know your home airport.
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Re: Ppl self study

#12 Post by propfeather » Thu Jan 11, 2018 12:31 pm

I did self study for my PPL at a very small (one plane, one instructor) FTU. Basically my instructor would go over what I should be studying and go over questions with me before and after each flight. Then I just had to pass his practice exams before doing the PPL written. It may have been faster/more focused to do a ground school course but it really helped me learning how to study by myself and build future self study skills.
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Re: Ppl self study

#13 Post by 455tt » Thu Jan 11, 2018 3:33 pm

Yes taking sample exams is good: be sure to take careful note of which subjects are creating difficulties and re-learn as needed.

Here are some good Canadian sample exam study guides for the PPL:

http://www.vippilot.com/canadian-books/ ... -2018-d305 (400 questions includes charts)
http://www.acceleratedaviation.com/webs ... ivate.html (1,200 questions with 12 exams includes charts)
http://pilotshop.ca/books-and-study-man ... swer-guide (600 questions with one exam includes charts)
https://www.tc.gc.ca/media/documents/ca ... 13014e.pdf (100 questions one exam, this is by TC and is a little too easy but at least it is free and is good practice anyways - you will need the Toronto VNC)

There are also online exams for the PPL from the following sources:

http://harvsair.com/courses/ground-scho ... nd-school/
http://www.acceleratedaviation.com/webs ... exams.html

All of the above should be doable as home study with CFI approval.

There are other good resources out there for sure but the above should do the job -
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