Taildragger Training in Ontario

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Taildragger Training in Ontario

#1 Post by may11 » Mon Nov 05, 2018 11:49 am

Hi Everyone,

I am a licensed pilot looking to do some training on taildraggers as I am planning to tow gliders at a club. Does anyone know of anywhere I might be able to find a taildragger to do training on? I've looked into Brampton, but there doesn't seem to be many other flight schools offering this.

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Re: Taildragger Training in Ontario

#2 Post by TailwheelPilot » Mon Nov 05, 2018 1:20 pm

I believe Rockcliffe Flying Club has a taildragger or two. I recall seeing posts about them getting a Cessna 170 as well as having a Decathlon for aerobatics (and presumably available for tailwheel training as well). Never flown there.
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#3 Post by C.W.E. » Mon Nov 05, 2018 1:36 pm

The Cessna 170 is a better choice for learning to fly a tail wheel airplane.

The Decathlon is real easy to take off and land whereas the 170 requires more attention.
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Re: Taildragger Training in Ontario

#4 Post by Lotro » Thu Nov 08, 2018 7:40 am

Wouldn't the club you're planning on towing gliders be able to make some training available to you?
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Re: Taildragger Training in Ontario

#5 Post by pigboat » Thu Nov 08, 2018 7:46 am

Brampton Flying Club does tail wheel training and are use to training pilots that go onto glider towing. Ask for Peter F. as he is the pilot with extensive glider towing background and a great tail wheel Instructor.

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#6 Post by SkySailor » Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:42 am

Contact "Hedley".

Tell him all his fans on AvCanada are waiting for his re-incarnation!! :D

http://www.pittspecials.com/articles.html
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Re: Taildragger Training in Ontario

#7 Post by JasonE » Sat Nov 10, 2018 8:03 am

If the club wants to use you for towing, it should be their responsibility to train you! Seems logical to me.
may11 wrote:
Mon Nov 05, 2018 11:49 am
Hi Everyone,

I am a licensed pilot looking to do some training on taildraggers as I am planning to tow gliders at a club. Does anyone know of anywhere I might be able to find a taildragger to do training on? I've looked into Brampton, but there doesn't seem to be many other flight schools offering this.

Thank you!
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Re: Taildragger Training in Ontario

#8 Post by Mapleflt » Sat Nov 10, 2018 11:47 am

Gliding clubs are a non-profit, non-commercial organization who's purpose is to train glider pilots. The offer power pilots the opportunity to experience tail wheel flying in support of their gliding operations. They require these pilots to have receive adequate tail wheel training elsewhere, they have no means by which to provide this training. They can however "check" a tail wheel pilot out on their club tow plane for their purposes and offer you a Summer of fun in grass roots flying.
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Re: Taildragger Training in Ontario

#9 Post by JasonE » Sat Nov 10, 2018 7:29 pm

Gliding club can check you out as there is no endorsement in Canada. Most gliding clubs choose not to since they have so many new pilots looking for "free" hours.
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Re: Taildragger Training in Ontario

#10 Post by Adam Oke » Sun Nov 11, 2018 1:14 pm

Not quite....Gliding Clubs don't have the mentality of keeping all of those young whipper snappers looking for free flying at bay. Most are very inclusive and welcoming. If you show up and all you want to do is fly the tow plane ..... well, this club is not for you. Go find a power flying club. They want to promote and sustain gliding.

You have to understand that gliding clubs use tow planes as a tool. The primary purpose of the club is Gliding. Every hour on that tug is divided into launch fee's. No member wants to bear the cost of a new member learning to fly a tail wheel aircraft...and nor should they. Clubs will teach you how to operate a tow plane, but it's not cost effective to train from scratch. And most clubs quite frankly need to save every penny they have.

In my opinion, joining a gliding club is one of the best things you can do. Learning to soar teaches you very important fundamentals that hold a very transferable skill set. As a bi-product, if you are qualified, you can help out and operate the tow plane as required....which happens to be a great time builder!
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Re: Taildragger Training in Ontario

#11 Post by C.W.E. » Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:21 pm

There is also the matter of insurance on tow pilots.
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Re: Taildragger Training in Ontario

#12 Post by Mapleflt » Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:58 pm

I'm not so sure that insurance is that much of an issue, or at least it wasn't 40 years ago when I had a grand total of about 5 hours on a Champ and started towing.

However one thing most clubs I know of require, you must do at least a couple of flights in the glider in order to have a sense of what life is like at the other end of the rope. In truth all of the tow pilots at the club I towed and flew sailplanes out of required tow pilots to be both club members and have at least soloed in a glider.
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