I thought I would copy a few of the wheel landing posts I made because they got lost in the other thread with the ongoing discussions......someone may actually want to read this stuff because of curiosity about wheel landings.
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In another thread I offered some thoughts on how to judge height and situational awareness during a landing in nose wheel airplanes and figured what the hell I might as well offer some suggestions on how to perform a wheel landing.
( The following is only a brief overview of this subject and in no way a full discussion of said subject.)
During the training for crossover from nose wheel airplanes to tail wheel airplanes there is a tendency on the part of some instructors to focus on full stall three point landings.
Why there is this concentration on three point landings is interesting because in almost every tail wheel airplane that is available to the general pilot community the wheel landing gives best directional control, especially with a X/wind.
So first lets look at the Flight Training Manual and see what that has to say regarding wheel landings.
There is not really much there except a short paragraph that is fuzzy at best in describing how to perform a smooth safe wheel landing.
In fact I find the description for this landing to be quite interesting.
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( From the Flight Training Manual.)
The approach should be normal with or without power according to the conditions of the day, to the point where the descent is checked. The airspeed is then decreased to the point at which the aircraft settles. Adjust the power at this point so as to descend in a level attitude at a slow rate ( approximately 100 to 300 feet per minute).
You will not be able to watch the vertical speed indicator during this stage, but with practice you can easily estimate the descent rate. A fast rate of descent could cause a hard contact with the surface, followed by a downward rotation of the tail through inertia and a subsequent bounce back up into the air. Small control adjustments only should be used as the aircraft settles to assist in descending slowly and maintain a level attitude. As the wheels smoothly contact the surface , apply gentle but firm forward pressure to hold the wheels on the ground and decrease the angle of attack. The aircraft should be held on the wheels nearly level, until it has slowed sufficiently to ensure full control in a three point attitude under existing conditions.
I teach the wheel landing a little differently, especially with regard to the rate of descent issue prior to wheel contact with the surface.
From a normal approach attitude and airspeed you commence the flare at a height which will result in the airplane being in the level attitude as the flare is completed and at the same time making contact with the surface, at wheel contact with the surface you lower the nose attitude sufficiently enough to change the angle of attack to produce zero or negative lift.
This can be done in two ways, my preference is to have the airplane trimmed hands off for the approach speed to make the approach less work and at surface contact use a slight forward movement of the elevator control to pin the airplane to the surface by dumping the lift vector.
Some pilots use nose down trim and just relax the back pressure at wheel contact, however that can pose a bit of an irritation if you need to go around for any reason as you now have a nose heavy airplane to start the climb out with.
The best prescription for a good wheel landing is quite simple…..flare at the correct height so as to not have to extend the landing distance and time in the air adjusting the rate of descent in the level attitude getting rid of height you didn’t need in the first place.
P.S. :
I high lighted that bit in red because it needs some examination.
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What method of landing do you teach first in a tailwheel checkout, 2 or 3 point and why? Michaelp same question.
The first thing I teach them is how to control the thing on the ground.
This is done by running the length of the runway with the tail in the air, if conditions are right we stop turn around and do it back down the runway...over and over until they can keep it straight......I handle the power so they only have one thing to do, once they get to the point they can keep it straight I have them S turn down the runway.
When they are able to control the airplane on the ground we go flying.
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I prefer to start with three point, mainly because the bumpy grass runway fly off of. It is difficult to stick a wheel landing there until you can pinpoint your landing spot. I teach 3 point then two wheel (at a hard surface airfield) then x-winds in both 2 & 3.
What order you teach the different landings in are up to you and the conditions at the time....however it is far better to teach the wheel landings on pavement rather than grass for obvious reasons. ( smooth surface, which is needed for really getting the landings done right. )
So basically....teach them directional control and attitude control on the ground first....( usually 1 to 2 hours of running back and forth on the runway with the tail in the air ) ...and also the incipient ground loop during taxi...and for Christ sakes make sure you are not going fast enough to damage the airplane.
Do it that way and you will turn out real good tail wheel pilots....remember it is all about directional control on the ground...the flying part is easy.
What method of landing do you teach first in a tailwheel checkout, 2 or 3 point and why? Michaelp same question.
The first thing I teach them is how to control the thing on the ground.
This is done by running the length of the runway with the tail in the air, if conditions are right we stop turn around and do it back down the runway...over and over until they can keep it straight......I handle the power so they only have one thing to do, once they get to the point they can keep it straight I have them S turn down the runway.
When they are able to control the airplane on the ground we go flying.
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I prefer to start with three point, mainly because the bumpy grass runway fly off of. It is difficult to stick a wheel landing there until you can pinpoint your landing spot. I teach 3 point then two wheel (at a hard surface airfield) then x-winds in both 2 & 3.
What order you teach the different landings in are up to you and the conditions at the time....however it is far better to teach the wheel landings on pavement rather than grass for obvious reasons. ( smooth surface, which is needed for really getting the landings done right. )
So basically....teach them directional control and attitude control on the ground first....( usually 1 to 2 hours of running back and forth on the runway with the tail in the air ) ...and also the incipient ground loop during taxi...and for Christ sakes make sure you are not going fast enough to damage the airplane.
Do it that way and you will turn out real good tail wheel pilots....remember it is all about directional control on the ground...the flying part is easy.
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To continue the wheel landing discussion.
For me the best method of performing the wheel landing is to have the approach planned for arriving above the planned flare point with a stabilized air speed and attitude that allows for the final fifty feet to be accomplished with the throttle/s closed...this gives me a touch down with energy being dissipated as quickly as possible and as short a float time as possible before wheel contact.
It will vary from airplane to airplane as to how much nose down pitch is required after closing the throttle/s to avoid to much air speed loss to the flare point after closing the throttle/s.
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Occasionally in light aircraft it will be necessary to use some power to control the descent rate due to turbulence although in the heavier stuff such as the DC3 it is very rare to have to use power after closing the throttles.