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How do I get a flying job as soon as possible?

Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 2:56 pm
by Ville
Howdy!
New to this forum and hoping to get some advice. I'll be completing my Multi IRF this summer and hoping to get flying... (like all of us low timers)
What do you guys recommend would be the best way to get into a flying job?
I also have a family and would like to either move with them or not be gone too much from home if possible. What are my options?
Cheers!

Re: How do I get a flying job as soon as possible?

Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 2:59 pm
by Tango01
I don't know, but when you find out, please let me know.

Re: How do I get a flying job as soon as possible?

Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 3:25 pm
by FlaplessDork
Invest in a good set of knee pads.

Re: How do I get a flying job as soon as possible?

Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 3:28 pm
by Tango01
FlaplessDork wrote:Invest in a good set of knee pads.
:lol:

Re: How do I get a flying job as soon as possible?

Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 5:50 pm
by av8tor_assrope
Target a few companies you’d like to work for and then just bug the shit out of them. Be realistic (ie. don’t expect left seat in a dash 8 with 250 tt) be persistent and most of all be patient. Good things come to those who wait. Eventually when things start moving again and companies start looking for guys, they’ll remember you as oppose to the dozens of guys who just emailed their resume once.

Good luck.

Re: How do I get a flying job as soon as possible?

Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 6:39 pm
by loopa
+1 aviator assrope. I'm experiencing what he says with a few companies. It's actually cool cause you find out all those oldies love to talk about planes !

Just about "bugging" the crap out of them... make sure you're not an annoyance, but the polite kid who's ambitious.

Re: How do I get a flying job as soon as possible?

Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 7:11 pm
by Ville
Thanks assrope. Will probably do just that. You guys also know any good commuters or other companies that have low time pilot pools?
Do guys always work for a company on a ramp while waiting for an opening, or just work out of the industry in any old job and keep dropping by to bug them about work?

Re: How do I get a flying job as soon as possible?

Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 7:30 pm
by loopa
Ville wrote:Thanks assrope. Will probably do just that. You guys also know any good commuters or other companies that have low time pilot pools?
Do guys always work for a company on a ramp while waiting for an opening, or just work out of the industry in any old job and keep dropping by to bug them about work?
When times were good, 250 hour wads were going from seneca college into the right seat of a jazz CRJ200, so imagine what kind of job the 250 hour wad out of a private flight school could find. Mind you the jazz gig was only a few people, but just goes to tell you how the industry was before.

Right now, you will most likely expect some "entry" level job.

Re: How do I get a flying job as soon as possible?

Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 8:49 pm
by av8tor_assrope
I did exactly that ville. My advice (taken with a grain of salt of course) would be to try and take any job you could find in aviation (Ie. Ramp, dispatch, secretary, ect) and while you’re working just start harassing companies. That’s how I landed my first right seat gig. I was waiting in line for a seat on the ramp, but every few weeks I was keeping in touch with the few companies I really wanted to work for. Eventually it paid off and I got hired by one of the companies I was staying in touch with.

Good luck guys.

Re: How do I get a flying job as soon as possible?

Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 11:13 pm
by Invertago
Ville wrote:Howdy!
New to this forum and hoping to get some advice. I'll be completing my Multi IRF this summer and hoping to get flying... (like all of us low timers)
What do you guys recommend would be the best way to get into a flying job?
I also have a family and would like to either move with them or not be gone too much from home if possible. What are my options?
Cheers!
Try to be job ready and hunting now for the spring jobs, if you just finish your training in summer you'll be just in time for the slow season. Also, make sure they stamp "IFR" on your license at the end, a Multi IRF won't get you far in the industry :P

Re: How do I get a flying job as soon as possible?

Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 11:32 pm
by kevinsky18
+1 on Vertigos comments. You want to be done before spring so you can catch the spring hiring season. Summer might as well be winter.

Re: How do I get a flying job as soon as possible?

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 12:20 am
by North Shore
Where do you live? And, are you willing to move? Are you an airline type, or would you be happy working away in some other niche (corporate, medevac, floats, fire etc.) all of those questions should be answered a little in your mind before you start thinking about the big questions like moving away from your family etc.. Generally, the further off the beaten path you go, the more likely you are to get hired, but you might not want to take your family there with you...

ps. One big piece of advice is to thoroughly vet your facebook photos! :lol:

Re: How do I get a flying job as soon as possible?

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 12:30 am
by Meatservo
No kidding. Your facebook photos are as boring as sawdust, Northy. I would never hire you.

Seriously, give it a good hard think before deciding what "kind" of pilot you want to be. Many people have started out being thoroughly convinced they want to be a bush pilot, and wound up liking airline flying better. Or vice-versa. There is also a way to do both, and all sorts of other things.

Re: How do I get a flying job as soon as possible?

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 1:02 am
by loopa
How can a 250 hour pilot who doesn't even know what VNAV means know if punching in cost index on the INIT page is what turns him on? Come on you guys lol...

Explore different sections of the industry and find your "niche." Plus, don't rush by trying to "make" the hiring season. Spend the NECESSARY time in training before you hunt for "flying jobs." But entry level, BE ON TOP of them :)

Those are my 300 hour worthy 2 cent advice. :smt040

Re: How do I get a flying job as soon as possible?

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 9:06 am
by ywgflyboy
Sigh. I miss the 200hr Jazz right seat days! :lol:

Starting to see some spring postings. Most asking 1000+ though.

Re: How do I get a flying job as soon as possible?

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 10:43 am
by Ville
I was originally gonna do some bush flying, and am still not opposed to it, but right now I'm leaning towards commuters. I guess I should write IATRA as soon as I finish my multi IFR...

Re: How do I get a flying job as soon as possible?

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 2:05 pm
by macbainz1
Tango01 wrote:
FlaplessDork wrote:Invest in a good set of knee pads.
:lol:
Good. But not for from reality :goodman:

Re: How do I get a flying job as soon as possible?

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 3:54 pm
by Jerry Lee
Well, you could fly for paratroopers, for a company that makes aereal photos, tourists flights, corporate, sightings fires, agricoltural pilot, and also you can do a Flight Instructor.
As well you can read, there are some jobs that you can looking for.
Good luck!

Re: How do I get a flying job as soon as possible?

Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 1:40 pm
by Ville
What do you guys mean about the knee pads? Like brownnosing to companies?

Re: How do I get a flying job as soon as possible?

Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 8:46 pm
by Highflyinpilot
brownosing not so much, keep thinking though :D

Re: How do I get a flying job as soon as possible?

Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 10:09 am
by hairdo
Ville wrote:I was originally gonna do some bush flying, and am still not opposed to it, but right now I'm leaning towards commuters. I guess I should write IATRA as soon as I finish my multi IFR...
And whom do you consider to be commuters? Cause if your definition of commuter is the same as TC's (704), it's not likely that you are going to get there with 200-250tt. Just being honest with ya. Unless, of course, you invest in those kneepads... :lol:

Re: How do I get a flying job as soon as possible?

Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 10:19 am
by Tango01
The 250 hour pilot flying for "commuters" doesn't happen here (very often) I think he might be thinking this is like USA where you fly for regionals as soon as you come out of flight school.

Again, those kneepads could serve you well...

http://www.kneepads.com/

Re: How do I get a flying job as soon as possible?

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 8:28 pm
by Ville
Not sure if I want to know how all you knee pad recommending guys got your jobs. Thanks to the rest of people who posted tips.

Re: How do I get a flying job as soon as possible?

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 1:27 pm
by blockheater
Ville wrote:Not sure if I want to know how all you knee pad recommending guys got your jobs. Thanks to the rest of people who posted tips.
If you can't take a bit of "industry humor", you won't last... We all got here by working our arses off and keeping a sense of humor!

Best asset to bring to your first job: strong back, weak mind. :mrgreen:

Re: How do I get a flying job as soon as possible?

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:26 pm
by paydaymayday
Listen to all you rat bastards recommending kneepads. Back in my day, we couldn't even do it on our knees, we had to be bent 90 degrees at the waist with our legs spread nice and wide! "Squeal like a pig!"

And Ville, I hate to break it to you, but you ain't gettin' on no commuter as a 200 hour wonder.