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Re: Radio License.

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The radio License thing is really stupid.
When you start flying , the School requires you to apply for the radio License.
When you aquire a cell phone, the provider charges a fee for the same thing.
I argued that I have one already so please void the fee but the Cell Phone Provider refused.
The radio license is a pure money grab period. Nobody enforces it and would have very little success if they did.
Just another bullshit fee that has been forced upon aviation .
Along the same lines as the Nav Canada fee > there are many pilots that do not use Nav Canada Services but they
are required to pay a fee by law.
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fleet16b wrote: The radio license is a pure money grab period. Nobody enforces it and would have very little success if they did.
Just another bullshit fee that has been forced upon aviation .
Uhhh no. Radios are the domain of Industry Canada and have licensing for all sorts of radios. Amateur Band, Maritime, Air Band, etc. Pilots are not the only people who have to test and pay for radio licenses. And there is often a good reason for it. Don't like it? Stay NORDO or use only bands that IC does not require licensing for like Citizen Band, Family Band, VHF or UHF industrial radios, cell phones, Kids Walkie-Talkies, or 2 papercups attached by a string.
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niss wrote:
fleet16b wrote: The radio license is a pure money grab period. Nobody enforces it and would have very little success if they did.
Just another bullshit fee that has been forced upon aviation .
Uhhh no. Radios are the domain of Industry Canada and have licensing for all sorts of radios. Amateur Band, Maritime, Air Band, etc. Pilots are not the only people who have to test and pay for radio licenses. And there is often a good reason for it. Don't like it? Stay NORDO or use only bands that IC does not require licensing for like Citizen Band, Family Band, VHF or UHF industrial radios, cell phones, Kids Walkie-Talkies, or 2 papercups attached by a string.
What are your "good reasons for it"
And the real usefullness of this license is????
What are the consequences of someone using a radio without one ?.....zip nada zilch
Nobody gets refused a radio licencse.
Anybody can buy a radio and start using it without one
As I said totally useless and uncontrollable
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Re: Radio License.

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After 40 years of flying, I had to recently call Industry Canada and get
a replacement. It arrived in two days.

A radio Licence is redundant, operating an aircraft radio
in an Aircraft should be limited part of a pre solo exam.
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fleet16b wrote:Just another bullshit fee that has been forced upon aviation .
What "fee" are you talking about? The radio license is free.
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Shiny Side Up wrote:
fleet16b wrote:Just another bullshit fee that has been forced upon aviation .
What "fee" are you talking about? The radio license is free.
Read your cell phone contract - you are most likely paying a radio license fee when you sign up
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But not your actual radio operator's certificate that you carry around. You know, for aviation. Isn't that what this topic is about?

They even did the good step of getting rid of the old "station license" that airplanes had to carry around with too.

Personally I think that the radio operator's certificate thing is silly when it comes to flying, since its not really enforced, though to rent airplanes I make sure people have one. That's our policy, not anyone else's, which if people say "no", it gives me the opportunity to test so that, well, they can talk on the radio. Its also a polite opportunity to remind them to keep it short and sweet. And I have refused issue of radio operator's certificates when people can't pass the simple multiple choice test. Something to do with a threshold of intelligence to fly the planes.
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Re: Radio License.

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They should make the Radio Operator's Exam one question:

Is it ever okay to say 'any conflicting traffic please advise' on the radio?

a) True.

b) False.

And a $1000 fine for every violation. That would make the Radio License and all of its associated fees and bureaucracy with it!
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At the bar I don't even bother showing the girls my watch to let them know I'm a pilot, I just tell them that we're going to bang and if there is any conflict, please advise.
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iflyforpie..

The multiple choice answers should be: Yes; and No.

Do you pass the threshold of intelligence to fly an airplane? :lol: ....I joke!
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At the bar I don't even bother showing the girls my watch to let them know I'm a pilot, I just tell them that we're going to bang and if there is any conflict, please advise.
I heard that worked well for you. But have you used it on anyone besides your kid sister?
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Jokes on you. My kid sister is pretty hot. I'm the envy of the 10th grade again.
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Well played.

No conflict here
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:D
trey kule wrote:Well played.

No conflict here
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Re: Radio License.

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Old Dog Flying wrote:Mine is dated 1957..is it still valid????

Barney
Yeah it's valid. I paid the $15 to get the red stamp in 1976 and back then was told its good for life, along with the license number.
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Re: Radio License.

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Shiny Side Up wrote:
fleet16b wrote:Just another bullshit fee that has been forced upon aviation .
What "fee" are you talking about? The radio license is free.
Some flying schools will charge the student for writing the exam or having the CFI sign off on my student permit/PStar, some goofiness like that.
I just remember having to pay $25 or something around there.
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I have to do my radio test tomorrow or Monday. I work the ramp at an airport and it is required. The book I was given to study isn't very big and basically just tells you how to properly say numbers heh anyone know how many questions on this test?
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Re: Radio License.

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TC didn't enforce it.

Yes Barney, it is valid for life, but you know that. Show off! :smt040

Ya all don't really want the airwaves to degenerate to the level of CB radios do you? The training is necessary, and in this country, user-pay, so if you want to use a radio you pay for the licence.

What annoyed me was having to pay to get a Radio Operator's Certificate - Marine, in addition to my ROC - Aviation, with the associated fee of course. Then recently I had to obtain a DSC (Digital Selective Calling) endorsement to the ROC-M. I must say though, having seen the newbies in the ROC-DSC course, I'm glad the training is required. The new ROC-M with DSC comes as a plastic card so I asked if they could add the ROC-A to the card. Nope, can't be done. I'd have to get another card to carry around. :x
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niss wrote:Fun fact, this is what the top post looks like to me. I can't help but think the two are related.

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ummmm. Were you searching cougar dating earlier or was it just coincidence?
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iflyforpie wrote:They should make the Radio Operator's Exam one question:

Is it ever okay to say 'any conflicting traffic please advise' on the radio?
I fly out of an uncontrolled airport that is not very busy and heard this for the first time today! I wanted to say something but I'm sure my instructor would have frowned upon it...
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