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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

#751 Post by Gonzodriver » Fri Jun 01, 2018 6:05 am

A guy i work with had the in person interview/medical mid April. He got a call a few weeks ago offering him a job and was told to plan for a fall course.
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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

#752 Post by JLA » Mon Jun 04, 2018 9:20 am

Have the calls gone out for June 18th? Heard the gs date wasn't a 100% guarantee..
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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

#753 Post by landsky » Mon Jun 04, 2018 10:15 am

JLA wrote:
Mon Jun 04, 2018 9:20 am
Have the calls gone out for June 18th? Heard the gs date wasn't a 100% guarantee..
I know of some OTS candidates that were called last week for the June 18th PIT course.
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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

#754 Post by Victory » Mon Jun 04, 2018 12:19 pm

Gonzodriver wrote:
Fri Jun 01, 2018 6:05 am
A guy i work with had the in person interview/medical mid April. He got a call a few weeks ago offering him a job and was told to plan for a fall course.
That seems strange they would offer him a job without a start date.
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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

#755 Post by altiplano » Tue Jun 05, 2018 9:30 am

Victory wrote:
Mon Jun 04, 2018 12:19 pm
Gonzodriver wrote:
Fri Jun 01, 2018 6:05 am
A guy i work with had the in person interview/medical mid April. He got a call a few weeks ago offering him a job and was told to plan for a fall course.
That seems strange they would offer him a job without a start date.
I agree.

I think they wanted to get away from that 'pool' type situation where offers/promises were made and then the PML started.

They were likely getting back to him after the interview as they promised, and don't have anything now so told him, standby, courses resume in the fall... We'll let you know when we're ready. I agree, promising, he's likely going to get hired, but it's not an offer until you have a date... economy could shit, a world war could start, who knows...
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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

#756 Post by fruitloops » Tue Jun 05, 2018 2:13 pm

some info as to who's getting hired....

small sample batch last May GS
12 new hires
-7 with degrees or at least college aviation diploma/degree
-1 OTS
-11 Express
The 5 without degrees came from Express and had Captain positions

last Apr GS
- i didn't go through everyone but here's the breakdown of the ones i did go through
Out of 19 new hires I looked through (more than that hired in this group as mentioned)
- 15 had degrees or at least college aviation diploma/degree - those that did not had excellent experience & plenty of hrs
- 11 OTS hires (westjet,porter,sunwing,cathay,air north,perimeter,etc)
- 3 ex-military
- 5 express pilots
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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

#757 Post by matc » Wed Jun 06, 2018 10:55 am

Wow I'm really surprised most hires have college degrees now...I don't get it. If I had a degree in engineering I sure would be working in that field ! Well I had to choose between paying for my flying lessons or going to college, couldn't do both
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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

#758 Post by Duke15 » Wed Jun 06, 2018 11:48 am

The late april GS, was almost all OTS. Only 3 jazz, 3-4 sky, 1 GGN, out of 37. I believe 10 from encore, 5-6 porter, a few SWG, and forget the others.(I was in it) Only have college diploma and 5500hrs, a lot of it is pic on multi twin turboprop if that helps.
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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

#759 Post by JLA » Wed Jun 13, 2018 9:48 am

Just got the e-mail stating my file was on hold for 12 months. Looks like a pool e-mail to me. Went through the whole process, including medical more than a month ago. Anyone got this before? And what should be expected? Never heard of such an answer before. Thank you for sharing your thoughts.
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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

#760 Post by schnitzel2k3 » Wed Jun 13, 2018 11:42 am

JLA wrote:
Wed Jun 13, 2018 9:48 am
Just got the e-mail stating my file was on hold for 12 months. Looks like a pool e-mail to me. Went through the whole process, including medical more than a month ago. Anyone got this before? And what should be expected? Never heard of such an answer before. Thank you for sharing your thoughts.
I guess their express list is finally starting to make traction as well as the training 'dog days of summer' kick in.

Don't fret, just hang tight. Where are you coming from by the way?

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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

#761 Post by nottellin » Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:28 pm

I got the we are unable to offer employment at this time. Welcome to reapply in 6 months about a month after interview. I am ots. Seems like the 12 month email is better then the one I got. JLA are you with an express carrier? Wonder if that has anything to do with different emails. I did medical and interview over a month ago.
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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

#762 Post by dhc# » Wed Jun 13, 2018 4:43 pm

Me thinks the AC hiring party is over for now... look how Jazz is overstaffed and offering LOA's...its just like a train derailment....
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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

#763 Post by Sharklasers » Wed Jun 13, 2018 6:32 pm

dhc# wrote:
Wed Jun 13, 2018 4:43 pm
Me thinks the AC hiring party is over for now... look how Jazz is overstaffed and offering LOA's...its just like a train derailment....
Lol.
You thinks wrong...
They are already running at least one groundschool during the scheduled summer shutdown.

Even IF the growth hiring is done the retirement hiring is only just beginning. The next bid will have 6 months of the 2019 retirements showing on it. That alone will fill 3-5 groundschools.
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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

#764 Post by Boomer74 » Wed Jun 13, 2018 7:57 pm

Hey everyone,
I don't post here very often, but I went through the interview process about 2 months ago. After I did my medical, the HR lady said if I had any questions to email or call her. Well, I received the same letter about a month ago stating that hiring had stopped for the summer and would resume in the fall and to feel free to reapply if I don't hear anything for 12 months. As I had one job offer already from another company, I wanted to know what this letter meant to make an informed decision, so I called up the HR lady. She was very helpful and what I took from the conversation is that they were going to take a brake on courses for the summer and resume in the fall. Instead of making everybody wait, this email was sent. Further, when courses start in the fall, I got the impression there will be quite a few courses until next spring. I hope this helps!
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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

#765 Post by FighterPilot » Thu Jun 14, 2018 4:27 am

I know first hand that OTS pilots have been interviewing the last few days. The Jazz slowdown has nothing to do with AC and are not interconnected as flow is not 100%.
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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

#766 Post by iflyroads » Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:16 am

Atleast 200 plus pilots need to be hired in the fall.

June 18th gs took some exp and some OTS. Jet time was an asset for the upcoming GS. It will likely be the only GS for the summer.

Every year AC slows down hiring for the summer. This year isn't an exception. Good luck to all who applied :)
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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

#767 Post by JoeyBarton » Thu Jun 14, 2018 2:01 pm

iflyroads wrote:
Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:16 am
Atleast 200 plus pilots need to be hired in the fall.

June 18th gs took some exp and some OTS. Jet time was an asset for the upcoming GS. It will likely be the only GS for the summer.

Every year AC slows down hiring for the summer. This year isn't an exception. Good luck to all who applied :)
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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

#768 Post by JLA » Mon Jun 18, 2018 3:39 am

Is it true that issuing conditionnal offers is no longer a thing, but that the company instead sends a 12 month e-mail?
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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

#769 Post by GATRKGA » Wed Jun 20, 2018 2:15 pm

nottellin wrote:
Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:28 pm
I got the we are unable to offer employment at this time. Welcome to reapply in 6 months about a month after interview. I am ots. Seems like the 12 month email is better then the one I got. JLA are you with an express carrier? Wonder if that has anything to do with different emails. I did medical and interview over a month ago.
The last round of express PFO's didn't include "please reapply in 6 months" in the language. Did yours actually say reapply in 6 months? Because Sky Regional management is communicating to the pilot group that there is only ONE letter that is sent in the event of a PFO. Can you clarify?

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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

#770 Post by yvrflyguy » Wed Jun 20, 2018 2:37 pm

Another PIT course announced for Aug 13
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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

#771 Post by RVR6000 » Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:21 pm

The last few ground schools seems like Encore/Westjet has a flow through agreement with AC.

July 23rd bid will be interesting, it will be a good indicator of future hiring.
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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

#772 Post by ARGO » Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:56 pm

Any predictions for the July bid?
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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

#773 Post by TheStig » Fri Jun 22, 2018 10:55 am

Any predictions would just be a guess. The next bid will start the construction of the airlines' plan for this winter through the summer of 2019. Starting this fall the YVR rouge 767 positions will be moved to YYZ and YUL as 737's are going to take over the Hawaiian routes. Next summer is up to the economists and marketing department to determine how many seats they think they'll be able to sell. Is the Canadian economy headed into recession? What will the competitive landscape look like? Where will oil prices be?

Aircraft acquisitions are a lengthy process but aircraft retirements are more adaptable, more A330's, B737's and 787's are arriving but when the A320's, EMJ's and 767's leave depends on whether the airline believes they can make money with them. Once they have this information, the Flight Operations department is responsible for crewing the airline at the lowest possible cost.

Over the next couple of bids I believe (pilot) growth will slow as smaller aircraft are replaced with larger ones (B767's for A330's and EMJ's for B737's), the rouge Airbus fleet will continue to grow, the A330 will return to YYZ, and retirements will continue to drive monthly hiring at a steady pace although upgrades at 1-2 years won't be seen.
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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

#774 Post by landshark » Wed Jul 04, 2018 7:46 am

Do they contact our references if there’re going to give you a PFO? Any idea what the time is from interview to hearing back, these days?
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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

#775 Post by K.Adams » Thu Jul 05, 2018 7:46 am

Any one care to share their timeline from initial interview to GS date?
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