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Federal Election — aircraft use

Post by ogopogo » Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:40 am

I noticed on TV this morning Mr Scheer is using a gussied-up A320. Assuming the C party has leased it from AC (I’m guessing) I’m curious as to how crew scheduling works re: schedules, hotels, etc. Is this something AC pilots would volunteer for? Or maybe the planes are crewed by management pilots?
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Re: Federal Election — aircraft use

Post by jpilot77 » Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:44 am

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Re: Federal Election — aircraft use

Post by Sharklasers » Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:48 am

Given the heightened security surrounding flying federal leaders perhaps these question are best left unanswered on a public forum?
If someone needed to know how the flying gets done they would know by now.
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Re: Federal Election — aircraft use

Post by fish4life » Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:40 am

Sharklasers wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:48 am
Given the heightened security surrounding flying federal leaders perhaps these question are best left unanswered on a public forum?
If someone needed to know how the flying gets done they would know by now.
Give me a break if security was such a big deal they wouldn’t paint it with Conservative party and his name all over it.

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Re: Federal Election — aircraft use

Post by Sharklasers » Wed Sep 11, 2019 10:26 am

fish4life wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:40 am
Sharklasers wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:48 am
Given the heightened security surrounding flying federal leaders perhaps these question are best left unanswered on a public forum?
If someone needed to know how the flying gets done they would know by now.
Give me a break if security was such a big deal they wouldn’t paint it with Conservative party and his name all over it.

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Are you so damaged that you dont see a difference between knowing that AC does the flying and knowing which pilots do the flying, how they are selected and where they sleep at night?

Post away then and let corporate security sort it out.
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Re: Federal Election — aircraft use

Post by North Shore » Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:22 pm

Wow, some touchy people in here!

I read the query as beiing more out of interest, along the lines of: "do regular crews bid 'election special' for a three day pairing," rather than: " is pilot X going to be staying in room y at the CY__ Holiday Inn on Sunday October 17th?"
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Re: Federal Election — aircraft use

Post by Fanblade » Wed Sep 11, 2019 4:31 pm

Jets flying is done with dedicated FA's and a maintenance engineer. The pilots are regular line pilots assigned to the flying like any other flying. Some falls to reserve. Last minute Jets flying (irregular/unpredictable) like this often gets picked up by management so as not to disturb the operation or overwhelm reserve.

But it could be ultimately any 320 pilots in the system and likely multiple crews if the leaders want long days.
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Re: Federal Election — aircraft use

Post by Old fella » Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:19 am

Fanblade wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 4:31 pm
Jets flying is done with dedicated FA's and a maintenance engineer. The pilots are regular line pilots assigned to the flying like any other flying. Some falls to reserve. Last minute Jets flying (irregular/unpredictable) like this often gets picked up by management so as not to disturb the operation or overwhelm reserve.

But it could be ultimately any 320 pilots in the system and likely multiple crews if the leaders want long days.
Is it interesting type flying dealing with campaigning party leaders, their entourage and the chasing media. Obviously there is a professional decorum that has to be maintained and for sure there is. I would crew duty times are some sort of an issue with party leaders tearing around the country at all times. Also the unexpected aka The Liberal B737 vs the Media Bus...
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Re: Federal Election — aircraft use

Post by Old fella » Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:20 am

Old fella wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:19 am
Fanblade wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 4:31 pm
Jets flying is done with dedicated FA's and a maintenance engineer. The pilots are regular line pilots assigned to the flying like any other flying. Some falls to reserve. Last minute Jets flying (irregular/unpredictable) like this often gets picked up by management so as not to disturb the operation or overwhelm reserve.

But it could be ultimately any 320 pilots in the system and likely multiple crews if the leaders want long days.
Is it interesting type flying dealing with campaigning party leaders, their entourage and the chasing media. Obviously there is a professional decorum that has to be maintained and for sure there is. I would assume crew duty times are some sort of an issue with party leaders tearing around the country at all times. Also the unexpected aka The Liberal B737 vs the Media Bus...
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Re: Federal Election — aircraft use

Post by Darkwing Duck » Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:44 pm

What is Elizabeth May and Jagmet Sighn using to get around the country?
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Re: Federal Election — aircraft use

Post by '97 Tercel » Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:19 pm

Whatever it is, it better be powered by fairy dust and pixie farts.
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Re: Federal Election — aircraft use

Post by goingnowherefast » Fri Sep 13, 2019 1:46 am

Pixie farts, although small, are a powerful greenhouse gas. Even worse than oldschool refrigerant gas.

I'm sure their hybrid airplane runs on unicorn excrement as it's low in carbon and contains a metric shit ton of energy.
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Re: Federal Election — aircraft use

Post by plausiblyannonymous » Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:26 am

Darkwing Duck wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:44 pm
What is Elizabeth May and Jagmet Sighn using to get around the country?
Singh hasn't announced what he is using yet, AFAIK.

May has announced that she is flying commercial. She'll say that it's to reduce her carbon footprint, but it's really because of a lack of funds at the Green Party.

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Re: Federal Election — aircraft use

Post by '97 Tercel » Fri Sep 13, 2019 4:52 pm

Please remember to vote for your best candidate and do not vote against the party that you have been taught to hate.
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Re: Federal Election — aircraft use

Post by schnitzel2k3 » Sat Sep 14, 2019 7:07 am

goingnowherefast wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 1:46 am
Pixie farts, although small, are a powerful greenhouse gas. Even worse than oldschool refrigerant gas.

I'm sure their hybrid airplane runs on unicorn excrement as it's low in carbon and contains a metric shit ton of energy.
Pixie farts = sulfur hexa-fluoride SF6.
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Re: Federal Election — aircraft use

Post by TheStig » Sat Sep 14, 2019 9:50 am

The election flying is covered differently than the rest of the Jetz due to additional security. Media is everywhere. The campaign season is short, (usually) every four years and before the hockey season gets into full swing. It's not difficult to crew.

The Sport Charters are a cool experience that some really enjoy and others are indifferent to. Everyone talks about the food for good reason, the players eat like kings, the left-overs are amazing. The FA's are incredible, organized and great to have a couple of drinks with.

Lots of the pairings are pretty dull, dead-head to YOW ferry an empty aircraft to EWR, deadhead home. Most of the flights with the teams are post-game; wait around until the bus shows up, players eat while their gear is loaded, the aircraft is a safe space for the team and they aren't to be solicited, fly from Dulles to Philly, get to the hotel at 3am. Sleep until noon, deadhead home as the aircraft has already been ferried to FLL. AC runs a really good operation, crewed and managed by people who really love their work.
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Re: Federal Election — aircraft use

Post by Kejidog » Sat Sep 14, 2019 10:59 am

liberal bus runs into liberal plane. pretty much sums up the last 5 years
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Re: Federal Election — aircraft use

Post by Blue42 » Sat Sep 14, 2019 11:15 am

Darkwing Duck wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:44 pm
What is Elizabeth May and Jagmet Sighn using to get around the country?
Canada Jetlines!!
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Re: Federal Election — aircraft use

Post by Darkwing Duck » Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:15 am

I haven't been able to find anything on Canada Jetlines except stock pricing and "Making Flying Suck Less"
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Re: Federal Election — aircraft use

Post by plausiblyannonymous » Tue Sep 24, 2019 7:41 am

Darkwing Duck wrote:
Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:15 am
I haven't been able to find anything on Canada Jetlines except stock pricing and "Making Flying Suck Less"
They're trying to go head to head with WestJet and Swoop.

They say they'll get their first A320 in Q4 2019, but saying that, we are a week away from Q4 2019 and I have seen no booking availability or aircraft updates.

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After reading through their Q2 Financial Statements and MD&A, I see that their lease begins November 1, 2019.

They originally wanted up to 21 737MAXs, but they cancelled that

Based on their financial statements and the losses per quarter, I don't believe that they will ever take to the skies... but what do I know? I only fly airplanes.
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Re: Federal Election — aircraft use

Post by goldeneagle » Tue Sep 24, 2019 8:38 am

Darkwing Duck wrote:
Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:15 am
I haven't been able to find anything on Canada Jetlines except stock pricing and "Making Flying Suck Less"
Canada Jetlines is based on a tried and true business model that has been successful for decades, used mostly in the junior mining industry, and was very successfully applied to the dotcom bubble 20 years ago.

It's a VSE pump and dump.
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