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#1 Post by Phlyer » Mon Nov 23, 2015 11:32 am

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Re: Medical/Car Accident

#2 Post by motomongo » Mon Nov 23, 2015 2:44 pm

I know of one pilot that has been hired in the last couple of years after a near fatal motorcycle accident.
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#3 Post by aV1aTOr » Tue Nov 24, 2015 2:58 pm

Medical condition will not disqualify anyone from employment consideration, unless it prohibits you from holding a valid Cat 1 medical. From what I have been told (internally), if something comes up in the pre-hire medical that is an issue, they will hold your file until it is resolved and then continue the process.
If you are healthy enough to hold a valid Cat 1, health does not factor into the decision to hire or not hire you.
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Re: Medical/Car Accident

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Re: Medical/Car Accident

#5 Post by loopa » Wed Nov 25, 2015 9:57 am

So in the extreme case if say a candidate had super high cholesterol or type 2 diabetes, would they still pass the medical? Because I believe you can still hold a cat 1 medical so long as it's not insulin treated diabetes, and I mean cholesterol, they don't even know cause no blood work is done.

I thought the purpose of the AC medical was to identify the things a typical CAT1 medical didn't identify to see whether you qualify or disqualify for employment.
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Re: Medical/Car Accident

#6 Post by leftoftrack » Wed Nov 25, 2015 7:53 pm

loopa wrote:So in the extreme case if say a candidate had super high cholesterol or type 2 diabetes, would they still pass the medical? Because I believe you can still hold a cat 1 medical so long as it's not insulin treated diabetes, and I mean cholesterol, they don't even know cause no blood work is done.

I thought the purpose of the AC medical was to identify the things a typical CAT1 medical didn't identify to see whether you qualify or disqualify for employment.
It use to be, then Air Canada lost at another human rights tribunal. The result of that is they still do the medical. They don't use the results.
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Re: Medical/Car Accident

#7 Post by Inverted2 » Thu Nov 26, 2015 6:06 am

They hired a younger guy recently that is very obese so I don't think the medical can be that difficult.
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Re: Medical/Car Accident

#8 Post by Ironman2909 » Thu Nov 26, 2015 7:46 am

I would say the reason for the pre-medical is to identify already ''existent conditions'' at the time of employment. They would not discard you if, let's say, you have back problem or any other health issue. Like it was said earlier if you have you're CAT 1 medical then you're good to fly. The only thing is they would keep those already existent problems on file so that you can't sue the company later on saying they've caused the problem.....and they check if you're clean....meaning NO DRUGS which the Cat 1 standard medical doesn't do.

When the Doc put the gloves is definitely not to check if you're on drugs...... :shock:

In a way it all make sense. :mrgreen:
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Re: Medical/Car Accident

#9 Post by JBI » Fri Dec 04, 2015 10:27 am

leftoftrack wrote:
loopa wrote:So in the extreme case if say a candidate had super high cholesterol or type 2 diabetes, would they still pass the medical? Because I believe you can still hold a cat 1 medical so long as it's not insulin treated diabetes, and I mean cholesterol, they don't even know cause no blood work is done.

I thought the purpose of the AC medical was to identify the things a typical CAT1 medical didn't identify to see whether you qualify or disqualify for employment.
It use to be, then Air Canada lost at another human rights tribunal. The result of that is they still do the medical. They don't use the results.
Hi Leftoftrack,

Can you provide more information on this? I looked up the CHRT decisions and couldn't find anything about this.

I had wondered this exact issue previously with respect to Air Canada's more stringent medical exam. Employer's can't exclude hiring someone based on a 'disability' unless it is a bonafide occupational requirement. But, if a pilot has a Cat 1 medical, he /she are licensed and any other further criteria would not, in theory, be an occupational requirement.

I don't have any self interest in this, but I find it interesting from a legal perspective.

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Re: Medical/Car Accident

#10 Post by bobcaygeon » Tue Dec 29, 2015 11:00 am

The AC doctor I dealt with was amazing and even sent me to a military aviation medical specialist to help me get past the AC medical because of diet controlled diabetes. I had never had my medical suspended when I was diagnosed.

It was far beyond what I expected even though I'd been a long time AC regional pilot.

Note: Always do your medical early in the month as if there are any hiccups it gives you time to adjust lifestyle and the regional director time to look over your case before having to suspend your medical.
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