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FL-280 wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2019 9:48 am That they come with their fleet may be the case, but TS pilots bring less than they believe.
The 310’s and 737 will never set foot at AC....
The last A310 flight at Transat will be April 2020 (funny it’s now coordinated with the acquisition timelines) and the 737s will be progressively leaving (but they could be useful for AC while your MAX are grounded...if they ever fly again...). Transat would bring A321s neo LR and A330s.....so definitely not less than what you want to believe.
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Anyone know how many were in today's pit course?
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FL-280 wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2019 9:48 am That they come with their fleet may be the case, but TS pilots bring less than they believe.
The 310’s and 737 will never set foot at AC....
The Transat pilots don't own anything. They have nothing, and will bring nothing. We here at AC don't "have" nor bring anything either.

You, like me, are only a "number" at AC. The Transat pilots will become just another "number".

There is NOTHING that you, or I can do to stop it. The Seniority issue will be handled by our elected reps and Transat's elected reps, or it will be handled by a Judge.

This animosity toward another pilot group....like they are responsible somehow (for anything)...... is childish and completely pointless.

Anger should be directed at Calin and his acquisition team, not the hapless victims at Transat that only want to keep their job and feed their families.

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Air Canada and Canadian was a merger done in the 90s, TS is an acquisiton by AC. The dynamics of the :prayer: seniority list will be very different :smt040
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bruced007 wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2019 3:10 am Air Canada and Canadian was a merger done in the 90s, TS is an acquisiton by AC. The dynamics of the :prayer: seniority list will be very different :smt040
The CDN/AC merger went off the rails a bit. Canadian Regional pilots who were not even on Canadi<n's property until early 1997 were given a phantom "date of hire" at Canadi<n starting in Aug 1990, just post B. Fulop (the last guy legitimately hired by CDN). This was done by CDN prior to submitting the list, not by AC. Giving the Canadian Regional pilots a fake date of hire was dead wrong. The first hundred or so CRA pilots pulled a "windfall gain" of epic proportions. So it didn't exactly go AC's way.

I would expect the Transat merger to be slightly better balanced, and simpler. However, if we expect and ask for too much, expect to be slapped down. Whatever the result, it will likely be close to date of hire, with a small ratio built in.

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It can't be DOH because we don't use DOH at AC

ie deferrals...

That could be a colossal mess
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I hope nobody's deferring these days. This could be the last class for a while.
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There will be classes right to the end of the year. This Transat merger is least is a year away from implementation. -my 2 cents-
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Hudson wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2019 4:00 pm Anyone know how many were in today's pit course?
31 people. More than half were OTS. A few more Cathay people again escaping that mess.
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Victory wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2019 3:21 pm I hope nobody's deferring these days. This could be the last class for a while.
This is not my impression from the last message from the boss from 2 days ago. The essence I felt was that they are preparing for an onslaught of new captains and the creation of more positions on most fleets.

I would guess a big shaker of a year with lots of hiring and movement.
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groundpilot wrote: Thu Aug 15, 2019 6:56 pm I would guess a big shaker of a year with lots of layoffs and no movement.
Fixed that for you. Gold is potentially on track to hit $2000/ounce - inverted yield curve, so-called "incompetent" federal reserve/unpredictable blow hard president,and other signs of bad news to come. Better hope you've got a year or two of seniority, because anyone new is going to be out on their asses.
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7ECA wrote: Thu Aug 15, 2019 10:20 pm
groundpilot wrote: Thu Aug 15, 2019 6:56 pm I would guess a big shaker of a year with lots of layoffs and no movement.
Fixed that for you. Gold is potentially on track to hit $2000/ounce - inverted yield curve, so-called "incompetent" federal reserve/unpredictable blow hard president,and other signs of bad news to come. Better hope you've got a year or two of seniority, because anyone new is going to be out on their asses.
Chicken Little? is that you??

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7ECA wrote: Thu Aug 15, 2019 10:20 pm
groundpilot wrote: Thu Aug 15, 2019 6:56 pm I would guess a big shaker of a year with lots of layoffs and no movement.
Fixed that for you. Gold is potentially on track to hit $2000/ounce - inverted yield curve, so-called "incompetent" federal reserve/unpredictable blow hard president,and other signs of bad news to come. Better hope you've got a year or two of seniority, because anyone new is going to be out on their asses.
Don't hate us cause you ain't us
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Alrighty there boys and girls, go easy now. I don't hate Air Canada, or her employees one bit. Georgian and it's ads on the other hand...

As for fantasy hardly (as I don't wish a repeat of the various bust cycles we've seen over the years), but only time will tell - as the signs are in place that there may be some serious turbulence ahead.
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7ECA wrote: Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:22 pm Alrighty there boys and girls, go easy now. I don't hate Air Canada, or her employees one bit. Georgian and it's ads on the other hand...

As for fantasy hardly (as I don't wish a repeat of the various bust cycles we've seen over the years), but only time will tell - as the signs are in place that there may be some serious turbulence ahead.
And what signs are those ?
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The media "reporting" that Trump ruined the economy probably.
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Fake news! Fake news! Right Victory? :roll:

Let's see... Gold is running pretty high at the moment. Inverted yield curve on bonds. Declining GDP and growth in numerous nations, including China and Germany. A certain person doing a lot to diminish the reputation/credibility of the Fed Chair whom they will need to rely on if things go South. Declining consumer confidence.

That enough for now?
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Stocks up !

Donald tweets are fabulous !
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got invitation.

4500tt, 2000 on jet.

quick question though, unable to attend the interview , is air canada welcome to delay the interview?

thanks!
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