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your flight time ?

500+ PIC JET
17
4%
500+ PIC JET 2 CREW
39
10%
500+ PIC TURBOPROP 2 CREW
71
19%
1000+ F/O JET/TURBOPROP 2 CREW
59
15%
Total Time 1500/2000
11
3%
2000/3000
28
7%
3000/ More
158
41%
 
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The Air Canada OTS thread

#1 Post by watermeth » Mon Mar 21, 2016 9:01 am

ok lets start something specific to this posting and grab some statistics to have a better grasp of the situation.
you can participate to the poll and bring some extra info like how long after you completed the app did they call you, etc...
you can also specify for which of the regionals listed at the end of their questionnaire you're working for. please, DO NOT participate in this poll if you already interviewed or received an invitation thanks to a PML. you guys are special and are not OTS applicants. :wink:
that'll be easier for everybody to see if there's a trend.
that could be useful to know.
good luck to all !
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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

#2 Post by Jimmybuffet » Mon Mar 21, 2016 9:40 am

5300TT, 2500 MPIC over 12,500. No call yet....
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#3 Post by dialdriver » Mon Mar 21, 2016 9:56 am

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#4 Post by leftoftrack » Mon Mar 21, 2016 11:39 am

Is over 12500 still a thing? Does a king air 350/1900 separate you from a King air 200 pilot? I can see 705 ops vs all other ops. High density airspace vs NWO airspace.
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#5 Post by Maver!ck » Mon Mar 21, 2016 11:41 am

3500TT, 1500 PIC, 1200 F/O 2 CREW TURBOPROP
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#6 Post by sportingrifle » Mon Mar 21, 2016 10:27 pm

The statistic that you should be perhaps focusing on is level of post secondary education.
University Degree
Collage Diploma
Aviation Degree
Aviation Diploma
High School
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#7 Post by pigboat » Tue Mar 22, 2016 4:35 am

Correct.

The only pilots that will be joining AC with only a High School education are from the Regional pilot move up. AC has,for many years, given high preference to those with University or an Aviation diploma. Military pilots are the one exception. Post secondary education has been the norm for over 25 years.

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#8 Post by Teamflyer » Tue Mar 22, 2016 7:00 am

+1 for post secondary. Canada usually follows the US. If you look at airlines like Delta and Alaskan. A University Degree is required, not just preferred...
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#9 Post by dialdriver » Tue Mar 22, 2016 7:30 am

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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

#10 Post by bruced007 » Tue Mar 22, 2016 7:43 am

Well I know a friend that got hired at AC a few years ago with 3000hrs total, 900PIC , 1200hrs turbine...
No university degree or post secondary education. It's what ticks their boxes.
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#11 Post by Jimmybuffet » Tue Mar 22, 2016 8:01 am

dialdriver wrote:9000 TT, 4800 Medium Jet, 3200 PIC, 450 Heavy TP PIC, University Degree
Curious, have you been contacted for an interview? For that matter, has anyone who's posting credentials been contacted?
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#12 Post by dialdriver » Tue Mar 22, 2016 8:07 am

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#13 Post by sstaurus » Tue Mar 22, 2016 10:19 am

4000TT, 2800 Turbine, 1500PIC, University degree and Aviation diploma, just crickets :?
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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

#14 Post by pigboat » Tue Mar 22, 2016 10:57 am

bruced007 wrote:Well I know a friend that got hired at AC a few years ago with 3000hrs total, 900PIC , 1200hrs turbine...
No university degree or post secondary education. It's what ticks their boxes.
In this case I am sure there is more to the story! AC still answers to the Fed's on minority and diversity hiring. Been this way since 1978 in the Flight Ops department. More than a few examples where flight time and experience has taken a back seat over social responsibilities. It is the Canadian way.

Regards. ..........not Judging. :prayer:
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#15 Post by altiplano » Tue Mar 22, 2016 11:01 am

Lesbian Minority Francophone? Welcome aboard.
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#16 Post by aV1aTOr » Tue Mar 22, 2016 11:23 am

Was hired with 3800 TT, 800 multi crew turboprop PIC. No post secondary at all. No training background, and no my dad doesn't work for AC. I'm a straight white anglophone guy, for those that would jump to conclusions. Hired OTS. Time from app to interview invitation about 1 month.
Contrary to what some would have you believe, having a degree is not necessarily required. I have met several other AC pilots hired in the last 5ish years with no post ed. Has this changed since PML? Maybe, but stick around long enough and you'll realize these things change constantly, and therefore nothing can be called "the norm."
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#17 Post by dtpilot » Tue Mar 22, 2016 7:29 pm

Just curious what people thought. I was contacted for an interview in 2012 but had made a commitment elsewhere at the same time and politely declined. I'm applying again now and wondering what that effect if any will have on my current prospects.
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#18 Post by 200Above » Tue Mar 22, 2016 8:48 pm

I'm in the exact same position, dtpilot. Declined an offer to interview early 2012 based out of respect for my current employer taking a chance on me first. I'm thinking of applying again.

I did receive an email back from a rep but I can't for the life of me find the response in my mailboxes. I do seem to remember he said to just reapply when an opening was posted and go through the same process.

Can't really help much more than that.
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#19 Post by bruced007 » Wed Mar 23, 2016 8:30 am

Considering the posting was up Mar 3... they must be gathering apps in a pool..Maybe once they have a sizeable pool they will start sending calls out by April

All we can do is wait and start posting info as we get it. Can anybody comment based on the last bid how many positions are/will be open.

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#20 Post by JoeyBarton » Wed Mar 23, 2016 10:32 am

Me thinks there will be a lot of poaching from Encore for this round.. :?
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#21 Post by skypirate88 » Wed Mar 23, 2016 11:26 am

JoeyBarton wrote:Me thinks there will be a lot of poaching from Encore for this round.. :?
Why wouldn't they? Instead of gutting the Express carriers, may as well hit the competitor. Add some cost to Encore for retraining, and perhaps slow the growth to protect the Express route network.
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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

#22 Post by pigboat » Wed Mar 23, 2016 2:50 pm

I doubt there will be any deliberate poaching. Some WJ and Encore pilots will most likely be hired. This opening will allow Corporate, Military and others to get a chance to come to AC. There may be as many as a few hundred hired off the street over the next dozen years.

The one given is that the hiring criteria has changed many times in the last 40 years and could change again at the drop of a pin, once the move up numbers are met.

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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

#23 Post by flymore » Fri Mar 25, 2016 1:41 am

2400 TT / 300 MPIC / 900 TURBOPROP (multi-crew) / Aviation Degree
No call yet...applied Mar 20, 2016
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#24 Post by blueoreas » Fri Mar 25, 2016 5:17 am

4500 TT, 1500 PIC, 2500 Heavy, a few hundred on TP and tiny jets, University degree in Aviation, Expat FO. No calls
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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

#25 Post by floats4fun » Fri Mar 25, 2016 12:02 pm

I agree with one of the posters, above. I would guess they are still gathering resumes. I applied early March. At the time, the closing date was March 27th. Unless that has changed...
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