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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

Post by Dry Guy » Sat Oct 19, 2019 8:32 pm

I believe there's still a pool. They won't tell you you're in it though, and an email saying they haven't finished reviewing your application means you're not in it yet.
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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

Post by bearitus » Sun Oct 20, 2019 7:12 pm

Is YUL a base option for current new hires at AC or is everyone getting YYZ? If so, does it take long to bid over to YUL?
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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

Post by jpilot77 » Sun Oct 20, 2019 8:37 pm

Multiple YUL vacancies on the last bid so it’s definitely possible. If you did get YYZ you’d be able to bid YUL on the next bid.
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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

Post by Kingair200 » Sun Oct 20, 2019 9:23 pm

jpilot77 wrote:
Sun Oct 20, 2019 8:37 pm
Multiple YUL vacancies on the last bid so it’s definitely possible. If you did get YYZ you’d be able to bid YUL on the next bid.
On which equivalent?
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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

Post by jpilot77 » Sun Oct 20, 2019 9:54 pm

Pretty much everything. Vacancies on 330, 737, 767, 319, 220.
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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

Post by iflyroads » Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:10 am

Class of 14 started yesterday. Only one was OTS from overseas. Rest were express
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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

Post by bearitus » Tue Oct 22, 2019 1:52 pm

iflyroads wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:10 am
Class of 14 started yesterday. Only one was OTS from overseas. Rest were express
Thanks for the update! Is there going to be a slow down in November and December for the holiday season or will additional classes still be running before the new year?
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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

Post by lee123 » Tue Oct 22, 2019 2:29 pm

bearitus wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 1:52 pm
iflyroads wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:10 am
Class of 14 started yesterday. Only one was OTS from overseas. Rest were express
Thanks for the update! Is there going to be a slow down in November and December for the holiday season or will additional classes still be running before the new year?
From what I understand 1 class every 3 weeks. Calls go out 2-2.5 weeks ahead, so next class should be going out by the end of this week. Looks like guys that interviewed in August are still waiting. I’m not sure if class size is increasing.
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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

Post by bearitus » Tue Oct 22, 2019 3:21 pm

lee123 wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 2:29 pm
bearitus wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 1:52 pm
iflyroads wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:10 am
Class of 14 started yesterday. Only one was OTS from overseas. Rest were express
Thanks for the update! Is there going to be a slow down in November and December for the holiday season or will additional classes still be running before the new year?
From what I understand 1 class every 3 weeks. Calls go out 2-2.5 weeks ahead, so next class should be going out by the end of this week. Looks like guys that interviewed in August are still waiting. I’m not sure if class size is increasing.
OK thanks for the update! I am waiting since early September and no call.
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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

Post by 21cdnflyer » Tue Oct 22, 2019 3:37 pm

bearitus wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 3:21 pm
lee123 wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 2:29 pm
bearitus wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 1:52 pm


Thanks for the update! Is there going to be a slow down in November and December for the holiday season or will additional classes still be running before the new year?
From what I understand 1 class every 3 weeks. Calls go out 2-2.5 weeks ahead, so next class should be going out by the end of this week. Looks like guys that interviewed in August are still waiting. I’m not sure if class size is increasing.
OK thanks for the update! I am waiting since early September and no call.
Any one from July in that boat?

Did you receive the have patience email from last week?

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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

Post by bearitus » Tue Oct 22, 2019 4:23 pm

21cdnflyer wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 3:37 pm
bearitus wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 3:21 pm
lee123 wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 2:29 pm


From what I understand 1 class every 3 weeks. Calls go out 2-2.5 weeks ahead, so next class should be going out by the end of this week. Looks like guys that interviewed in August are still waiting. I’m not sure if class size is increasing.
OK thanks for the update! I am waiting since early September and no call.
Any one from July in that boat?

Did you receive the have patience email from last week?

Cdn
I did get the patience email last week.
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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

Post by iflyroads » Tue Oct 22, 2019 4:59 pm

November and December are projected to be larger gs.....for now
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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

Post by iflyroads » Wed Oct 23, 2019 9:50 am

calls going out for a nov 11th gs.
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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

Post by Transition9er2 » Wed Oct 23, 2019 1:23 pm

iflyroads wrote:
Wed Oct 23, 2019 9:50 am
calls going out for a nov 11th gs.
Thanks for the update!

Any info available on the class size?

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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

Post by Super31 » Sat Oct 26, 2019 4:23 pm

Does anyone know what equipment was offered to this last class (Oct 21)?
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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

Post by FAD3C » Sun Oct 27, 2019 4:33 pm

Does anyone know what got offered on the last PIT?
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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

Post by speedah » Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:16 pm

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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

Post by Transition9er2 » Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:17 am

Any information available on the Nov 11th class size?

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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

Post by 21cdnflyer » Fri Nov 01, 2019 2:15 pm

https://montrealgazette.com/business/lo ... 350-pilots

Air Canada will look to hire up to 350 pilots next year, as soon as global transport regulators have cleared the Boeing 737 Max to resume service.

The Boeing narrow-body jet has been grounded worldwide since March following two deadly crashes — in Indonesia and Ethiopia — that occurred more than four months apart. Air Canada, which had 24 of the planes in its fleet at the time of the grounding, has removed them from its schedule until at least Feb. 14.

Canada’s biggest airline is training its 400 or so pilots assigned to the 737 Max in a flight simulator to prepare for the aircraft’s re-entry into service, chief executive officer Calin Rovinescu said Tuesday. With 26 additional jets scheduled for delivery next year, the company will need to step up pilot recruitment, the CEO added.

“We will take prudent steps on hiring” to prepare for the return of the 737 Max, Rovinescu said on a call with financial analysts. “We would hope that the ungrounding occurs soon.”

Boeing is continuing to work on fixes for the 737 Max, and has now entered the “final stages” of the recertification process, chief executive officer Dennis Muilenburg told U.S. senators at a hearing in Washington Tuesday. The plane will return to the skies “when everyone is convinced it’s safe,” Muilenburg said after apologizing to the families of the victims.

Southwest Airlines, the U.S. discount carrier that is the largest operator of the 737 Max, recently extended the removal of the jet from its fleet to Feb. 8. American Airlines, which is banking on a return of the plane by mid-January, said last week the prolonged grounding would trim annual pretax profit by $540 million.

Due in part to costs associated with the grounding of the 737 Max, Air Canada’s third-quarter net income fell about nine per cent to $636 million. Operating expenses climbed two per cent to $4.6 billion, the company said Tuesday.

Air Canada took several steps to make up for the absence of the 737 Max. It extended leases for Airbus A320 and Embraer E190 jets, which resulted in higher maintenance expenses, and deployed some aircraft operated by its Rouge low-cost unit on routes that would normally have been served by the 737 Max. It also delayed repainting planes and installing Wi-Fi on the entire fleet until the situation has been settled, chief financial officer Michael Rousseau said.

All told, Air Canada will probably need up to a year to put all 50 of its 737 Max aircraft back in operation, Rovinescu said.

“This is not an overnight process,” he said. “You would not see the incremental capacity from 50 aircraft flooding the market in the first few months of 2020.”

Although airlines worldwide are facing a pilot shortage, Air Canada is confident of hitting the recruitment target due in part to the success it has met in luring pilots from other carriers, Rovinescu said. The company can also count on an agreement with its feeder carriers, Sky Regional and Jazz, to promote pilots to the mainline.

“Think of it as a farm system,” Rovinescu said. The deal “provides a good base for future pilot flow.”

Air Canada has been looking at alternative scenarios if the 737 Max remains grounded for longer than expected. Options include performing maintenance work on some older aircraft to ensure they continue to operate “well into next year,” Rovinescu said. The company has a large number of contingency planes available, he added.
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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

Post by CZBBYYZPilot » Fri Nov 01, 2019 6:59 pm

That's 350 737 pilots, not total new hires. The news media has reported a hiring freeze, which is technically not true, there just hasn't been anyone hired into 737 positions.
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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

Post by Dry Guy » Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:33 am

Yeah I talked to my parents and they mentioned they saw the 'big news' that they are hiring 350 next year and I was like that's disappointing I thought it'd be more like 500+.
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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

Post by goingnowherefast » Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:36 am

I had the impression it was 350 onto the max and just the max. That excludes the number hired for every other type.
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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

Post by altiplano » Sat Nov 02, 2019 8:34 am

The last crew requirement bulletin and position bid was about 250 seats open on the 737 alone.

Some guys bailed off though to other seats in the bid, so about 350 needing to be trained, new hire or off other fleets to have the airplanes all crewed when it gets going again.

Same bulletin was 800+ vacancies company wide, that was a couple months back... probably still 500-600+ positions open moving into next year.
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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

Post by Art Garfunkel » Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:33 am

I heard only 8 for the Nov 11 course
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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

Post by Shinyjetsyndrome » Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:20 pm

With the massive amount of pilots being hired all at the same time recently (especially young guys in their 20's), would it still be worth pursuing Air Canada if meeting the requirements is still about 3-5 years away? I kind of feel like I missed the boat and seniority is going to be the bane of my existence with so many younger people ahead of me ie: my number will stay relatively constant compared to people hired now who are able to take advantage of the retirements and massive growth to get into a much cushier position earlier. This also has pretty big implications on retirement too. I wonder if WJ might be a better move as their pilot group starts to age and given their potential expansion opportunities with 787's, etc. There's a couple issues I can think of like uncertainty with Onex, no pension and lower pay, but it might end up being more in the end if I can't even move up within AC's ranks. :?
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