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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

Post by lownslow » Sat Dec 07, 2019 9:12 am

iflyroads wrote:
Sat Dec 07, 2019 6:45 am
All YYZ I believe
I would guess that all new hires will be YYZ based for the foreseeable future. Not because people aren’t needed elsewhere but because that way any relocation is simply seniority based.
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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

Post by TheStig » Sat Dec 07, 2019 10:22 am

There are vacancies for new hires in YUL on the A220, A330, 737 and rouge Airbus. Vacancies in YVR will be A320 and 737. There may be spots on the 777 and 787 in YVR but the airline isn't going to train anyone from the Seneca Class of '16 into those spots.
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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

Post by goingnowherefast » Sun Dec 08, 2019 6:02 am

Dry Guy wrote:
Sat Dec 07, 2019 7:40 am
What date do the new duty regs come into force for Air Canada? Or what date will they implement them if sooner?
As per Gazette 2, December 12, 2020
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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

Post by Inverted2 » Sun Dec 08, 2019 6:10 am

Airlines will wait till the last minute to implement them. :wink:
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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

Post by rudder » Sun Dec 08, 2019 7:19 am

Inverted2 wrote:
Sun Dec 08, 2019 6:10 am
Airlines will wait till the last minute to implement them. :wink:
Air carriers will need to be compliant on day of implementation.

Therefore, in some instances (cumulative flight time/cumulative duty time) the new limitations will have to be enforced in advance.

As for staffing, most carriers have completed analysis of impact on staffing and have been preparing accordingly. I suspect AC is no different in this regard.
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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

Post by Dry Guy » Sun Dec 08, 2019 9:11 am

Thanks. Will the new regs stop things Air Canada does like unaugmented Atlantic crossing?
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Post by jpilot77 » Sun Dec 08, 2019 10:56 am

Some routes farther into Europe yes, but no blanket augmented Atlantic crossings.
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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

Post by Dry Guy » Sun Dec 08, 2019 11:10 am

jpilot77 wrote:
Sun Dec 08, 2019 10:56 am
Some routes farther into Europe yes, but no blanket augmented Atlantic crossings.
That sucks. WB flying would be a much better job if it wasn't for the un-augmented oceanic crossings.
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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

Post by dialdriver » Fri Dec 13, 2019 9:33 am

What's the oldest age of any recent new hires?
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Post by tallyho » Fri Dec 13, 2019 9:54 am

There was a 57 and a couple of other 50 somethings in my class in summer. Plus a bunch of 40 somethings.
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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

Post by sdotz » Sat Dec 14, 2019 5:44 pm

iflyroads wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2019 9:41 am
Transition9er2 wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2019 7:48 am
iflyroads wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2019 7:38 am
Class of 8 started yesterday. No OTS if I remember correctly. A handful of ggn

Expect to see a few ggn in Dec gs as well. Not sure about the ots number.
Thanks for the info Roads, can we expect the Dec 2nd class will be the last one of 2019? If so, any idea what the new year holds in terms of class sizes or frequency?

Thanks,

T
That's a correct assumption. Expect hiring to ramp up again beginning of Jan.
Thanks For all the information, Roads.
Will the Jan/Feb ground school be 40 each? The plan is a ground school every 3 weeks?
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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

Post by bigrig » Sun Dec 22, 2019 3:09 pm

Wondering how much weight an internal reference carries? Also how much does having more than one reference benefit.
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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

Post by altiplano » Sun Dec 22, 2019 7:02 pm

bigrig wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2019 3:09 pm
Wondering how much weight an internal reference carries? Also how much does having more than one reference benefit.
Thanks
Assuming you have everything else they want, it makes the difference of getting your name pulled out of the pile sooner than later.

They are sensitive on nepotism though, if you aren't competitive in experience, it won't help much.
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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

Post by losercruiser » Sun Dec 22, 2019 8:24 pm

bigrig wrote:
Sun Dec 22, 2019 3:09 pm
Wondering how much weight an internal reference carries? Also how much does having more than one reference benefit.
Thanks
It doesn't really add much. It goes on the file for the hiring board but doesn't get you an interview.
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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

Post by LicensedToThrill » Mon Dec 23, 2019 3:44 am

What's the experience levels of the OTS guys? I'm a non Jazz pilot.
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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

Post by TheStig » Mon Dec 23, 2019 7:24 am

OTS hires have been more or less limited to pilots leaving the RCAF or ExPats with wide body experience.
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Post by jpilot77 » Mon Dec 23, 2019 9:33 am

And during the last year a significant number of pilots from Westjet and Encore.
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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

Post by goingnowherefast » Mon Dec 23, 2019 10:29 am

Are they still hiring pilots off Dash 8s from "705 lite" companies; Perimeter, PAL, CMA, etc.?
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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

Post by TheStig » Mon Dec 23, 2019 12:36 pm

Here's a rough tally for AC's 2019 Hiring
226 - Jazz
39 - GGN
27 - SR
26 - RCAF
18 - Sunwing
15 - Porter
26 - Westjet
38 - Encore
8 - Swoop
11 - Cathay Pacific
9 - EVA/Emirates//Air India/ Thomas Cook
3 - CargoJet
9 - Flair
10 - Cdn North/ 1st Air/ Air North
13 - Corporate (Although some might have been 705'lite Ops?)
3 - Transport Canada/Bombardier
8 - Pasco/Bearskin/Calm Air/EVAS/Sky North
2 - Very unfortunate Air Transat pilots

The hiring at the start of the year was more OTS weighted while the courses running since the end of summer have been mostly from the connectors.
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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

Post by bruced007 » Wed Dec 25, 2019 9:16 am

TheStig wrote:
Mon Dec 23, 2019 12:36 pm
Here's a rough tally for AC's 2019 Hiring
226 - Jazz
39 - GGN
27 - SR
26 - RCAF
18 - Sunwing
15 - Porter
26 - Westjet
38 - Encore
8 - Swoop
11 - Cathay Pacific
9 - EVA/Emirates//Air India/ Thomas Cook
3 - CargoJet
9 - Flair
10 - Cdn North/ 1st Air/ Air North
13 - Corporate (Although some might have been 705'lite Ops?)
3 - Transport Canada/Bombardier
8 - Pasco/Bearskin/Calm Air/EVAS/Sky North
2 - Very unfortunate Air Transat pilots

The hiring at the start of the year was more OTS weighted while the courses running since the end of summer have been mostly from the connectors.
That's a total of 491 new hires of which 292 (59%)were from the connectors (Jazz, SR, GGN) leaving only 41% OTS. Any idea what the hiring numbers are going to be like for 2020. :prayer:
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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

Post by Transition9er2 » Wed Dec 25, 2019 2:27 pm

Anyone know if calls went out for an end of Jan GS earlier this week (Christmas week)... Monday / Tuesday??

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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

Post by losercruiser » Wed Dec 25, 2019 2:31 pm

Transition9er2 wrote:
Wed Dec 25, 2019 2:27 pm
Anyone know if calls went out for an end of Jan GS earlier this week (Christmas week)... Monday / Tuesday??

T
Calls have already gone out for Feb 17th.
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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

Post by Transition9er2 » Wed Dec 25, 2019 3:29 pm

losercruiser wrote:
Wed Dec 25, 2019 2:31 pm
Transition9er2 wrote:
Wed Dec 25, 2019 2:27 pm
Anyone know if calls went out for an end of Jan GS earlier this week (Christmas week)... Monday / Tuesday??

T
Calls have already gone out for Feb 17th.
Thanks for the note, what a great Christmas present for the ones who got the call!!

Does that mean only 1 class for Jan and 1 class for Feb?

Any info on class sizes?

Thanks, and Merry Christmas everyone!

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Re: The Air Canada OTS thread

Post by losercruiser » Wed Dec 25, 2019 3:47 pm

Considering the heavy load on the training department right now from the latest bids, and given it's the new year I wouldn't be surprised if it's just one in January. By spring things will ramp up again as usual.
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