Ratherbe wrote: ↑Tue Oct 30, 2018 4:56 pm
Had to do some digging to find what the TA had for scope improvements. The ACPA website has been erased of those now embarrassing newsletters highlighting the proposed changes to the ACPA contract in 2011.
-new ASM ratios restricted growth of Tier 2 and 3 carriers
-new ASM ratio calculated only on domestic/transborder ASM’s rather than systemwide ASM’s (limits domestic outsourcing)
-new limits on number of CRJ’s
-secured all EMJ 190/175 jobs at mainline
-new protections for flying in Joint Ventures
-462 possible new jobs at the LCC (see previous discussion)
Of course the TA was voted down but most of the language remained as negotiated. We lost all the EMJ175 jobs in FOS of course which cost us about $32,000,000. A tough lesson which I suspect was quickly forgotten.
So clearly, the monopoly which Jazz had on our regional flying was sold- not given away. Maybe ALPA could have got more but that would only have upset their own members at Jazz.
Ultimately, the Arbitrator in FOS had the final say on these new scope provisions, “Air Canada considered this to be a major concession in bargaining.”
No, it wasn't sold for that! Maybe you think you got that stuff... But really, the things you list we already had, or were concessions even!
First off, I don't believe those to be scope improvements... just a math shuffle to the corporation's ultimate benefit and securing things we already owned.
ASM ratios? While they pack more seats into fewer airplanes and run them on transcon stages? They can't fit anymore seats in those Express airplanes, so they get more while we do the same amount of flying...
score 1 for the company...
RJs/Express flying was already limited.
2 for the company...
Secured the 175/190? We already owned that flying... and how did that ultimately work out?
3 for the company... that's really like score 1000 for the company actually...
New protection for JV?
We already had scope on that flying that forced the corporation to seek resolution on that.
another win for the company.
462 jobs and 50+ fins to B-scale and you call that a gain?
that's the biggest win fit the company ever!
Nothing you list is a gain and must serves the corporation's needs.
So again, we got nothing for giving up something that was immensely valuable to the corporation.
You want to talk about tough lessons? The lesson is:
Don't send guppies in with sharks.