AuxBatOn wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 08, 2018 2:13 am
altiplano wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 08, 2018 1:23 am
Your responsibility is to live within the law and report for work fit to fly and do your job. There is no arguing that. But if they want more restriction, beyond whatever is mandated, to make them feel good or make their customers feel good, then that has to be negotiated, as I said I'm happy to help, but there is a cost...
How do you feel about the law mandating 8 hrs bottle to throttle and AC requiring 12 hrs?
12 is what it always has been at AC, or at least for a long time... I do disagree with it - not because I'm looking to drink up to the legal limit, but because it is overreaching and without basis - but those were the terms I joined under, and I'm not interested in spending any bargaining capital to change it.
But when they changed it to the new 20 hour restrictions after the Sunwing guy in Calgary a couple years ago I called bullshit... It should be just to report with a BAC of 0.0 and fit for duty. They didn't think that some would be able to understand that and the "union" is inept.
Outlaw58 wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 08, 2018 6:08 am
I do get what you're saying. Got it way back from your first intervention.
This is an opportunity to squeeze a few extra bucks at the next contract negotiation. I do get it. But vote time I am NOT going to support the relaxed rules if it means giving anything up for them.
Told you I got it.
From your statement, I'm really not certain you have "got it"... next contract negotiation? this is happening now and they are taking it. your and my freedom, even if I'm not planning on using this particular freedom, IT'S MINE.
I would never want to give anything up to relax rules like these. But you're supporting giving something up now by allowing the corporation to tighten them for nothing in return, zero, zilch...
We are giving this away, allowing them to take it, when we can extract a gain, even a small one, for it instead...
That's how it works... even if you don't care or think it's a good idea for this particular thing to restrict it... that freedom is ours, don't allow them to take it for free.
Our contract is so far behind - every little bit, every inch counts, and giving away an opportunity like this is a mistake, and sets a bad precident the next time they want to take something of yours.