Dang...You got me. You need to send this to the Westjet and Transat pilots, and then they can show it to the CWIPP Board of Trustees and say, "But your website says you have to let us in!"altiplano wrote: ↑Sun Dec 16, 2018 6:38 pm I get it... You still believe everything your representatives tell you.
http://www.cwipp.ca/about_why_join.aspxhttp://www.alpa.org/en/about-alpa/what- ... filiationsParticipation in CWIPP is open to any employer who has a collective bargaining agreement with a CLC-affiliated union.In Canada, ALPA is affiliated with the Canadian Labour Congress (CLC), which represents more than 3.3 million unionized Canadian workers.
Actually, there's a lot more to this than what you've written there. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, and assume that you didn't read the various NC and PC newsletters that explained the issue. Or that you didn't email an ACPA committee member to ask them directly. Or phone CWIPP, or a member of the WJ bargaining committee to ask them directly.
CWIPP has over 80 member groups spread across Canada with over 5000 active members. Up until last summer, all of these groups were in provincially regulated industries: automotive, manufacturing, nursing homes, etc. Over 3500 of theses active members are Ontario based, so that is the jurisdiction that governs the plan for all members, regardless of where they live and work. Ontario has favourable funding rules that give the CWIPP plan an exemption from 'solvency funding', which I don't really understand but apparently solvency funding is a lot stricter than the other funding rules that CWIPP is allowed to use. When ACPA joined, they became the first federally regulated group in the plan. We will add thousands of members, and in 15-20 years will probably outnumber the Ontario members (3500+). When this happens, the jurisdiction will become federal for all members in the plan and they will have to adopt solvency funding rules. This was a big concern for the Trustees, but they allowed it because over the next 15 years they expect the federal rules to be improved. So they agreed to let ACPA join CWIPP, but also stated that they would close the doors to any other federal groups until the federal funding rules improved, this was done to give them time.
So back to the point, yes, I believed it when our reps said that CWIPP was available to us in the fall of 2017, but might not be at a later date. This has proven to be true, and if you don't believe it, then phone a WJ or AT bargaining rep, or phone CWIPP yourself to ask. But don't believe anything they tell you, especially if they all tell you the same thing! That's proof they're all in on the 'burning platform' conspiracy. Keep digging!
