777-200 to be retired?
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Polar Bear
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Re: 777-200 to be retired?
While nothing would surprise me with this pandemic, just because Delta is retiring a fleet type doesn't mean other airlines will follow suit.
Delta had 18 777s as compared to 60 A330s, 15 A350s, 75 767s (including the -400s) and 127 757s (approximately 6% of aircraft capable of trans-Atlantic operations).
Air Canada's 777 fleet makes up approximately 30% of their trans-Atlantic capable fleet (though I don't know the precise split between -200s and -300s). So for Delta, retiring an aircraft that is a small percentage of international Ops provides cost savings where there are sufficient alternatives. I don't see that happening with Air Canada.
But it's COVID, so who knows at this point.
Delta had 18 777s as compared to 60 A330s, 15 A350s, 75 767s (including the -400s) and 127 757s (approximately 6% of aircraft capable of trans-Atlantic operations).
Air Canada's 777 fleet makes up approximately 30% of their trans-Atlantic capable fleet (though I don't know the precise split between -200s and -300s). So for Delta, retiring an aircraft that is a small percentage of international Ops provides cost savings where there are sufficient alternatives. I don't see that happening with Air Canada.
But it's COVID, so who knows at this point.
Last edited by JBI on Mon Nov 02, 2020 5:41 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Re: 777-200 to be retired?
The 777-200 economics are not that great anymore when you see the B787 range and fuel burn. Most of the worlds B-777-200's would make very good long range freighters. The old stretch DC-8's got another twenty years of good service after the end of their passenger days, flying freight.
Re: 777-200 to be retired?
I don’t believe there is a freighter conversion for the B777-200LR. There is one now for the -300ER but the first one won’t be flying until 2022. Besides, our triples are a little too young to be switched over. The oldest -200 was delivered in 2006. It was actually flying today but was just a ferry flight.
My guess is the triples will stay around. They’re so versatile and haul such a load for such a long distance. Besides if we can’t fill them with passengers we can fill them with freight or a combination of the two.
My guess is the triples will stay around. They’re so versatile and haul such a load for such a long distance. Besides if we can’t fill them with passengers we can fill them with freight or a combination of the two.
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thenoflyzone
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Re: 777-200 to be retired?
No there isn't. Like you said, the -200LRs are relatively new, and there is not enough feedstock to make a conversion program worthwhile. Only 60 -200LRs were delivered, compared to over 820 -300ERs.
Combined with the fact that the -300ER can carry more volumetric cargo as well, basically makes a -200LR conversion program a non-starter.
