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Post by Bede » Mon Aug 25, 2008 9:16 am

Any details on AC888 last night YOW-LHR? My mom was on board and she said they lost an engine somewhere over the Atlantic and returned to St. John's.
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Post by whiteguy » Mon Aug 25, 2008 9:37 am

Bede wrote:Any details on AC888 last night YOW-LHR? My mom was on board and she said they lost an engine somewhere over the Atlantic and returned to St. John's.
What more details do you need?
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Post by TG » Mon Aug 25, 2008 4:53 pm

http://www.tc.gc.ca/aviation/applicatio ... osition=15
Date: 2008/08/25
Further Action Required: Yes
O.P.I.: Maintenance & Manufacturing
Narrative: ACA888, Boeing 767-375, enroute from Ottawa (CYOW) to London (EGLL), declared pan pan pan due to the loss of oil pressure in the right engine. The pilot originally requested and was cleared to Gander (CYQX), but shortly afterward changed the destination to St. John’s (CYYT). The aircraft landed without incident at 04:05Z.
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Re: AC888

Post by Lost in Saigon » Wed Aug 27, 2008 7:22 am

It turns out they first lost all oil quantity, which of course is then followed by a loss of oil pressure.
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Re: AC888

Post by Bede » Wed Aug 27, 2008 8:21 pm

I was told they shut off all cabin lights. Is that something in the 67 QRH? Also they powered back the good engine and their original 50 min to YYT ended up 2 hrs. That's what I was told anyways.
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Post by MFranks » Thu Aug 28, 2008 12:45 am

I was on board the plane and it was incredibly traumatic. The power went off in the cabin suddenly and you felt the plane slow down quickly. The captain then came on in a very jittery voice and said we had a power problem and were returning to Gander - he said we would be there in 15 minutes which was clearly wrong given our position. He said they were leaving the lights off in the cabin to preserve power. The captain's communications contributed directly to the sense of panic in the cabin and for the next 20 minutes until the lights were back on properly we genuinely feared for our lives. We have been offered $100 by Air Canada which I feel is derisory given the trauma involved - can anyone advise if this is reasonable?
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Post by buss » Thu Aug 28, 2008 6:53 pm

I also was on the flight. The captain sounded like he was sobbing. How much money do you guys think this is worth?
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Post by Jaques Strappe » Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:15 pm

buss wrote:I also was on the flight. The captain sounded like he was sobbing. How much money do you guys think this is worth?


Did you land safely? ...................Perhaps you should be asking yourself, how much that is worth.
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Post by Rockie » Fri Aug 29, 2008 4:42 am

Jaques Strappe wrote:
buss wrote:I also was on the flight. The captain sounded like he was sobbing. How much money do you guys think this is worth?


Did you land safely? ...................Perhaps you should be asking yourself, how much that is worth.
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Post by Coast-dog » Fri Aug 29, 2008 8:59 am

Um, hello?! Pilots are human, too! If the Capt. didn't give a sh*t he wouldn't have made an announcement.

The simple fact is that you, as a passenger, didn't know what exactly was going on.

You paid money to Air Canada to get you from A to B safely. Unfortunately in this case, you returned to A...

...SAFEFLY.

I've had to make a similar type of announcement. The situation was not an emergency, but when you're busy up front IN THE COCKPIT, the pressure is on and your voice SOUNDS STRESSED.

Now you have the nerve to come on here and bitch about the Captain sounding upset over the public address system?!

Get over yourself.
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Re: AC888

Post by buss » Fri Aug 29, 2008 10:53 am

I was kidding. Like come on people.
I was referring to the post previous to mine. Some people see dollar signs in everything.
I will admit my voice has wavered under stressful situations
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Post by It's about time » Fri Aug 29, 2008 12:10 pm

MFranks wrote:I was on board the plane and it was incredibly traumatic. The power went off in the cabin suddenly and you felt the plane slow down quickly. The captain then came on in a very jittery voice and said we had a power problem and were returning to Gander - he said we would be there in 15 minutes which was clearly wrong given our position. He said they were leaving the lights off in the cabin to preserve power. The captain's communications contributed directly to the sense of panic in the cabin and for the next 20 minutes until the lights were back on properly we genuinely feared for our lives. We have been offered $100 by Air Canada which I feel is derisory given the trauma involved - can anyone advise if this is reasonable?
Hmmm, you lost an engine (SH*T happens but the odds are still well stacked in your favour)
Captain and crew get busy securing airplane and managing power distribution - PRIORITY NUMBER 1 !
Captain takes some of his precious time to make a hurried "jittery" PA. We can practice a PA like this but until the situation happens you really don't know how it will sound.
Due to a whole slew of other factors and variables that the crew does not have time to relate to you the plane lands later than orginally mentioned.
You SAFETLY get off the plane get on the internet and have the nerve to criticize and chastize the crews action.

Take your $100, buy a rowboat in YYT and start rowing to London.
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Post by Rebel » Fri Aug 29, 2008 3:44 pm

It's about time wrote:
MFranks wrote:Hmmm, you lost an engine (SH*T happens but the odds are still well stacked in your favour)
Captain and crew get busy securing airplane and managing power distribution - PRIORITY NUMBER 1 !
Captain takes some of his precious time to make a hurried "jittery" PA. We can practice a PA like this but until the situation happens you really don't know how it will sound.
Due to a whole slew of other factors and variables that the crew does not have time to relate to you the plane lands later than orginally mentioned.
You SAFETLY get off the plane get on the internet and have the nerve to criticize and chastize the crews action.

Take your $100, buy a rowboat in YYT and start rowing to London.
Good post..
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Re: AC888

Post by Dockjock » Fri Aug 29, 2008 11:10 pm

Hey MFranks

Mood lighting: $0
Jittery PA: $0
Safe landing after engine failure over the north atlantic at night: for you? $100 for most...priceless
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Post by Hoov » Sat Aug 30, 2008 3:18 am

MFranks wrote:I was on board the plane and it was incredibly traumatic. The power went off in the cabin suddenly and you felt the plane slow down quickly. The captain then came on in a very jittery voice and said we had a power problem and were returning to Gander - he said we would be there in 15 minutes which was clearly wrong given our position. He said they were leaving the lights off in the cabin to preserve power. The captain's communications contributed directly to the sense of panic in the cabin and for the next 20 minutes until the lights were back on properly we genuinely feared for our lives. We have been offered $100 by Air Canada which I feel is derisory given the trauma involved - can anyone advise if this is reasonable?
Dont give up the good fight, I am thinking maybe....13 million. That may seem inflated but this saturdays 649 is over ten million and the winner doesnt have to go through that.
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Re: AC888

Post by buss » Sat Aug 30, 2008 8:18 pm

How hot was the coffee?
Oh and how ugly was the SD that should be worth something.
Talk it over with your lawyer they will have some wonderful insight. Good luck with the lottery AH.
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Post by E-Flyer » Fri Sep 12, 2008 7:45 pm

Rockie wrote:
Jaques Strappe wrote:
buss wrote:I also was on the flight. The captain sounded like he was sobbing. How much money do you guys think this is worth?


Did you land safely? ...................Perhaps you should be asking yourself, how much that is worth.
Well said.

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Re: AC888

Post by NEBOJSA » Sun Sep 14, 2008 6:40 am

I allways say ...As long they get me from A to B in this case somewhere between A and B without killing me the pilots did their job.It is not easy to land a plane off that size with one engine.
Great job :prayer:

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Re: AC888

Post by crazyaviator » Sun Sep 14, 2008 8:11 am

In the old days, when a man looses an engine on a SINGLE engine plane, he finds a landing spot and lands or he crashes and burns WHATEVER ! Today, we have airline pilots who cant even tie their shoes right ( Air France overrun at CYYZ) A large twin CLIMBS well on a single engine !
The level of ego and incompetence still outweighs all comprehension in my books !!!
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Post by Rockie » Sun Sep 14, 2008 8:34 am

crazyaviator wrote:In the old days, when a man looses an engine on a SINGLE engine plane, he finds a landing spot and lands or he crashes and burns WHATEVER ! Today, we have airline pilots who cant even tie their shoes right ( Air France overrun at CYYZ) A large twin CLIMBS well on a single engine !
The level of ego and incompetence still outweighs all comprehension in my books !!!
I disagree. What are you basing your opinion of the competence and ego of airline pilots on?
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Post by Rebel » Sun Sep 14, 2008 9:31 am

crazyaviator wrote:In the old days, when a man looses an engine on a SINGLE engine plane, he finds a landing spot and lands or he crashes and burns WHATEVER ! Today, we have airline pilots who cant even tie their shoes right ( Air France overrun at CYYZ) A large twin CLIMBS well on a single engine !
The level of ego and incompetence still outweighs all comprehension in my books !!!
Okay I’ll bite, but first what are you smoking?
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Re: AC888

Post by crazyaviator » Sun Sep 14, 2008 10:11 am

Its a new cigarette, its called "Reality 101" You should try one , its good for you ! lol :D
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Re: AC888

Post by Rockie » Sun Sep 14, 2008 10:32 am

So you're saying pilots today are more incompetent and have bigger ego's than back in the old days? What are you basing that finding on?
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Re: AC888

Post by crazyaviator » Sun Sep 14, 2008 6:04 pm

no, didnt say that , i said that we have airline pilots today who cant tie their shoe laces !
Where is the wise pilot gone ? one who can rationally think and make right decisions ( remember Air transat and dead sticking it because they couldnt rationalize the POSSIBILITY that they were loosing fuel,,, land the plane and be a troubleshooter in the bar later ! )
Politics and ego s and poor attitudes and too much testosterone all contribute to stupid accidents !
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