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Seven pages, over 150 + posts, and thousands of "excited" fans and you guys still can't put the curtain on this comedy???? I'd say this thread should be locked down, or deleted completely.
Why??? Because, it's a FP60 club members mostly talking AND bringing up the same old "awareness issues" to a majority of club members who really will NEVER agree with you people. EVER! Maybe, it's a bit harsh, but I will speak in my name and I don't think that even a brain transplant will ever change my stand on this.
Rockie wrote: Govern your actions on that instead of railing at the skies over your perceived injustice. Perceived injustice?!! Sorry Rockie, but I gotta pick on you, because you contribute 85% on this topic. How did you move up to the rank that you are now today at AC? (I assume you work there?) Is it because of your excellent flying or critical thinking skills, or is it because you have a relative that works/worked in flight ops and pulled you up?? No, I didn't think so. Not that I question your flying skills or command leadership, but your my pal are at the position there because SOMEONE AHEAD of you politely retired when the time came, respecting the mutual agreement set in black and white between PILOTS and Air Canada. We been here before I think, but you guys are quick to bring some no related pension facts from Ottawa or supreme court of justice about inequality or discrimination. So I say it again, all you FP60 folks are there because of the mutual agreement AND respect of your colleagues who didn't kick and scream when their time came to put the park break on for the last time. Called it respect, airmanship, fellowship....but thousands of pilots before you didn't use these injustice/discrimination tricks to defend their retirements. You guys are the prime example of ME society who wants it all, and who blames everyone else for their failures in life or short backs, lack of time in their career, bad timing in the industry, economy, kids, wife(ves), higher living expenses......etc, etc. So the only way you can (or think you can) correct this is by pissing on the rest of the crowd who is doing their job that they signed up for in the first place.
Now, yes, the times are changing, people are living longer, healthier (or so they think) and the Gov't is short changed on the pension fund, so they give you a perfect solution. Work more, so that we don't have to pay you sooner, and with that we (the Gov't) hope that you will kick the bucket sooner, preferably while still working, so we don't have to pay you at all when you;re gone!! Someone really clever figured this out!
The Original Tony has pointed that all too well, and majority of folks understands this all too well, but a small blinded minority is too greedy to realize that. Their shinny metal and sadly lack of or no life at home, prevents them from realizing this.
Hey guys, I understand it's not easy, in fact, it's a big traumatic shock (that can be mitigated if you thought/planed ahead of your retirement) for anyone to retire after 35-40 years of doing something that you love! But that was the deal you signed up and you can't go BACK on the agreement and now make 3000+ other guys unhappy and miserable because you are. I should rephrase, I guess you CAN now, but is that really the just and right thing to do?? How would you feel if 1000 pilots who are retired already, decide to come back and use this same new Law and jump EVERYONE at AC including even you??? Guys who are 70 or 75 even, all bumping you guys and the senior folks at AC, all the way down to the EMB level?? Hundreds of junior guys displaced, demoted or on lay off now trying really hard to keep their families in tact!??? Triple seven guys dropping down to A320 level, A320 folks bumping off RP pilots, and your super senior FP60 club, suddenly finding yourselves in the middle of the seniority pack. Doing crappy pairings, red eyes, min credit, sitting on reserve, not holding preferred (or assumed schedule you all thought you would get)????!!...It all seems like a horror story, and hard to comprehend, but once the doors are open - ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE!
To sum it up, yes, the LAW has changed, and in fact times are changing....the government is going to have it their way, and they are trying to make the rest of society work even past 65 before they have a right to earn their CPP. They will paint the picture however it needs to be, to cover the lack of budget and funds THEY blew away doing something that the rest of us, including you guys, didn't sign up for!
What can you guys all working for AC do?? Ignore the fact that you CAN work "till you die", and just remain "status quo". When your time comes, retire and live and enjoy your life. That 's what retirement was designed for! You love flying?? Go instruct at your local club, pass on the valuable experience to the new kids, tell them how is the road ahead. Truthfully, don't sugar coat it... Travel, get a hobby, volunteer, take your grand kids on a trip.....I don't care, just live your life and SPEND that retirement money before someone takes it from you. Today is 60, tomorrow the Law is going to be 65 for ALL pilots at AC because you allowed it and set the precedent. Instead of safeguarding this extraordinary perk in your contract, you are letting the Gov't and Management vultures take the spin on this and make this worse for everyone in 5 or maybe 10 years. But you won't care then, because you will be retired by then (hopefully) and won't give a damn about the people behind you.
Rockie wrote: Govern your actions on that instead of railing at the skies over your perceived injustice.
So, tell me again Rockie, what perceived injustice are we talking about?? Or should the majority of 3000+ pilots fill a grievance to the courts and show their discontent about this new law??? |
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