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acpoolie wrote:Does anyone know what the qualifications were of the poolies that were picked this time around? (Jet time, degree, etc.)Just trying to gauge how they are picking the poolies.
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Nobody Cares About You, aka working for a big corporation. I kinda felt guilty about my post a few weeks ago but when I saw this I thought of y'all. It's not personal.
http://lifehacker.com/the-company-you-w ... 1692113529
Good luck to all, still a great job.
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Apparently the two March courses and the one April course has been filled,4 poolies in each course. 40 poolies remaining in the pool.
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An update was sent to the pool today from AC.

Nothing really groundbreaking, there are two courses in March (one already begun) of 19 new hires each, and another one of 10 planned to start April 13th for a total of 48 pilots. 9 non-Jazz pilots are on the courses, all of whom have been notified. They have also said they cannot provide any indication where anybody sits in the pool.

No more courses are being planned at this point moving forward.
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There are hundreds of Jazz pilots that are on the PML that need to be interviewed and if necessary, sent for an AC medical. Allowing for 6 interviews per day and a realistic interview schedule of just 2 days per week and a likely lull during the summer months, that process alone will take a year or perhaps even longer.
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Just out of curiosity, do the pilots on the Jazz PML have to go through the pilot screening like the OTS pilots are required (Psych Eval,Cog,etc.)?

Why/Why Not?

Thoughts?
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Anybody on the recent GS from the other express feeders?
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JoeyBarton wrote:Anybody on the recent GS from the other express feeders?
That won't happen for a couple more years. They are going to exhaust the Jazz PML list before it opens to other feeders.
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Any idea how many still in the pool?
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bruced007 wrote:Any idea how many still in the pool?
Any idea how you scroll up to see the answer?
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Any news of the april bid?
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I've heard it was a flat bid with next to no vacancies for new hires, but I don't get those emails so I'm not 100% sure.

It would make sense since they're getting rid of Embraers starting with this bid though.
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Bid was flat. Only 2 vacancies.

Word is next surge will be in the fall and it will really run from there...
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altiplano wrote:Bid was flat. Only 2 vacancies.

Word is next surge will be in the fall and it will really run from there...
Just as in farming, aviation is always about things being better next year.

Talk about being in the doldrums, hiring at AC drives movement for the rest of the industry but not for the past year... its literally died.
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Ok, see you in june!
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AC always trains for peak season which is summer. In a perfect world they have all training in place by May 1 and no need to train crews through the summer.

Preparation for summer 2016 will begin this fall. In previous posts I stated sustained hiring would not take place until spring 2016 due to the fleet plan and retirements. Since that time the fleet plan has adjusted at both AC and Rouge upward. Sustained hiring will need to start this fall in preparation for next summer. That hiring will then need to start kicking up a notch in late 2016/ early 2017 as normal retirement outflow resumes.

My assumptions are based on the current fleet plan and only 20% retire at age 60. Of those not retiring at 60 the assumption is all retire at 65. We are 2.5 years post mandatory retirement at age 60.
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Fanblade wrote: We are 2.5 years post mandatory retirement at age 60.
... and after all the gnashing of teeth over the past 10 years, AC pilots still have a career ahead of them that looks pretty good. :smt023
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Doug Moore wrote:
Fanblade wrote: We are 2.5 years post mandatory retirement at age 60.
... and after all the gnashing of teeth over the past 10 years, AC pilots still have a career ahead of them that looks pretty good. :smt023

And then some..........

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Doug Moore wrote:
Fanblade wrote: We are 2.5 years post mandatory retirement at age 60.
... and after all the gnashing of teeth over the past 10 years, AC pilots still have a career ahead of them that looks pretty good. :smt023
Lots of forced reductions on all bases Doug. But you are correct, it will eventually get moving again after the five year stall.

Yes still a good career. Progression 5 years slower now, and many will have to work past 60 to meet their career and pension goals, nevertheless.........still good.
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I work at Air Canada and like looking at this thread to see what's going on with hiring, believe it or not this is the only place to find out about course dates and the hiring pool. I feel for the guys in the pool, shitty situation. What I'm getting sick of seeing is guys putting up long winded posts about "how it is" in the industry and how it was hard for them. Not helpful to anyone. Please cease and desist from speaking in the future. Thank you :D
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BlueSkies12 wrote:I work at Air Canada and like looking at this thread to see what's going on with hiring, believe it or not this is the only place to find out about course dates and the hiring pool. I feel for the guys in the pool, shitty situation. What I'm getting sick of seeing is guys putting up long winded posts about "how it is" in the industry and how it was hard for them. Not helpful to anyone. Please cease and desist from speaking in the future. Thank you :D
Thanks for the hypocrisy. I do believe here in Canada, we still enjoy some freedom of speech. If you don't like it, don't read it.
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BlueSkies12 wrote:I work at Air Canada and like looking at this thread to see what's going on with hiring, believe it or not this is the only place to find out about course dates and the hiring pool. I feel for the guys in the pool, shitty situation. What I'm getting sick of seeing is guys putting up long winded posts about "how it is" in the industry and how it was hard for them. Not helpful to anyone. Please cease and desist from speaking in the future. Thank you :D
Great post bud. Solid contribution. Excellent avcanading.
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Our Crew Manning committee said that we will require anywhere from 100-150 new hires before June 2016. So anywhere from 20-30 non Jazz pilots.
Hang in there guys!
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Any idea when the next PIT course will be held?
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Probably going to be awhile... No emails to the pool recently have indicated that any PIT courses are planned, plus the last bid showed what, 3 pilot vacancies six months out?

Judging from their fleet planning I would be surprised if there's another PIT course before October, but that's just an outsider's point of view.
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