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mbav8r
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When is the first sky regional pilot joining mainline?
I assume you mean as part of the PML program, if so, that won't happen until the the Jazz PML is exhausted and at that time the next gen PML will kick in.
Any SR pilot joining AC until then would have to go over as an off the street new hire at a ratio of 20% to 80% Jazz pilots, anything else would be a violation of the four party agreement in place.
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mbav8r wrote:
When is the first sky regional pilot joining mainline?
I assume you mean as part of the PML program, if so, that won't happen until the the Jazz PML is exhausted and at that time the next gen PML will kick in.
Any SR pilot joining AC until then would have to go over as an off the street new hire at a ratio of 20% to 80% Jazz pilots, anything else would be a violation of the four party agreement in place.
It would appear after the July 14th meeting with Mr.Howlett that both GGN & Sky have their own PMLs now.
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Yes Jazz pilots, you still have access to 80% of the AC ground schools. Sky and GGN are occupying the other 20%. I belieive 2 GGN and 2 Sky pilots are on the next AC ground school.

From what I hear a lot of Jazz pilots are differing so making it very difficult to plan.
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Art Garfunkel wrote:Yes Jazz pilots, you still have access to 80% of the AC ground schools. Sky and GGN are occupying the other 20%. I belieive 2 GGN and 2 Sky pilots are on the next AC ground school.

From what I hear a lot of Jazz pilots are differing so making it very difficult to plan.
So for the October one? November?
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Yes, quite a few Jazz pilots have deferred....Jazz has also started to defer (hold, freeze..) pilots for 1-3 months.
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countryhick wrote:Yes, quite a few Jazz pilots have deferred....Jazz has also started to defer (hold, freeze..) pilots for 1-3 months.
How is this deferral going to play out. You defer, go to AC in 2 years and slide in ahead of the others hired since? I'm sure there will be no infighting there. Could be worse, imagine getting hired off the street at WJ and told you will never go Capt because all the Encore pilots are ahead of you.
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In the September course, the 4 guys from the outside 20% were from the pool. From course to course, they sometimes take Sky and Georgian people in the 20% but it always varies.
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Email was sent to the pool a few days ago.

There's an October course starting on the 26th then another PIT course starting on Nov 23rd. Nothing more is finalized but she said they are expecting another 5-6 courses in the first half of 2016 of 20 pilots each.
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There was an email a couple weeks ago.

I think it said 190 by next summer...

Current SPB shows 257 required looking forward to forecast flying a year from now.
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FlyPast70!!! Raise your walkers in the air and 'stand' united!!
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Anyone who delays their course runs the risk of losing out if there is a downturn.

If you are on the property you stay; you are not on the property....the gates will close.

Yep you have a number but you will miss years of pay etc when you finally make it into a flight deck.

How long was the last downturn? 3years?
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Deferring a course date is very risky given the number and pace of changes relating to hiring policy that have been occuring recently. Overlaid on the cyclical nature of the business, it's naive to think that your reserved place at the table is more than a best effort commitment. Take it, make it real ASAP when you get an offer of employment.
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Any news on how many are left on the pool. I know the November course as been filled. Apparently next course could be at beginning of January 2016.

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Hey guys,

Do you have any idea of when will be the 1st delivery of the 737 Max??

Cheers.
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I think the 737 MAX is suppose to arrive somewhere in 2017.
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First two are scheduled to arrive at the very end of 2017. Realistically I'd call it 2018 for an official start.
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Is there any groundschool starting in january?
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I think it is anticipated to start January 4th. I don't think it as yet been confirmed.
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smnoi wrote:In the September course, the 4 guys from the outside 20% were from the pool. From course to course, they sometimes take Sky and Georgian people in the 20% but it always varies.
To date 3 pilots have gone from GGN to AC through the PML.
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This news might already be known by some, if not most of you, but just got news that the plan is still to hire 160-180 new hires by July 2016. Three ground schools with 20 pilots each are planned but the end of 2015 (some maybe already underway). The rest in the new year...
Looking pretty good if you ask me.
Good luck to all of you.
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:shock:
LTD wrote:This news might already be known by some, if not most of you, but just got news that the plan is still to hire 160-180 new hires by July 2016. Three ground schools with 20 pilots each are planned but the end of 2015 (some maybe already underway). The rest in the new year...
Looking pretty good if you ask me.
Good luck to all of you.
:shock: Well there was one course forecast to start on Nov 27th. Two more in that timeframe is just good news! Hopefully they will pick guys out from the pool! :D
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LTD wrote:This news might already be known by some, if not most of you, but just got news that the plan is still to hire 160-180 new hires by July 2016. Three ground schools with 20 pilots each are planned but the end of 2015 (some maybe already underway). The rest in the new year...
Looking pretty good if you ask me.
Good luck to all of you.
Any news on when the application window will reopen for the new hires to apply ???
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bruced007 wrote:
LTD wrote:This news might already be known by some, if not most of you, but just got news that the plan is still to hire 160-180 new hires by July 2016. Three ground schools with 20 pilots each are planned but the end of 2015 (some maybe already underway). The rest in the new year...
Looking pretty good if you ask me.
Good luck to all of you.
Any news on when the application window will reopen for the new hires to apply ???
:prayer: :prayer: :prayer: would like to know as well.
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The rumour had it reopen for Feb 2016 but with the last updated news about the hiring I wouldn't be surprise to see it open before that.
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Any word on what the mix was for the Nov course? I'm assuming 80% Jazz, what about the others? Poolies, ggn or Sky?

Nice to see some sustained hiring.
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