Air Canada to trim $50-million in costs

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Re: Air Canada to trim $50-million in costs

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What is the current number of active pilots?
Something like 3175, i think ( from APC )
What is the current fleet size?
Something like 200

3175 / 200 = 15.88

Is this a "common" ratio of pilots : planes?
I haven't researched it or anything, but it seems like a high ratio!
Anyone have any comparison or experience in rostering?
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cpt.sam wrote:What is the current number of active pilots?
Something like 3175, i think ( from APC )
What is the current fleet size?
Something like 200

3175 / 200 = 15.88

Is this a "common" ratio of pilots : planes?
I haven't researched it or anything, but it seems like a high ratio!
Anyone have any comparison or experience in rostering?
If you want to see minimum rostering for a fully utilised narrow body fleet then take a look at WJ. However, in general I would suggest that approximately 12 pilots per narrow body would be the norm. Wide body international is dramatically different due to augment and rest requirements. Not unusual to see 20+ per wide body.
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Re: Air Canada to trim $50-million in costs

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rudder wrote:
cpt.sam wrote:What is the current number of active pilots?
Something like 3175, i think ( from APC )
What is the current fleet size?
Something like 200

3175 / 200 = 15.88

Is this a "common" ratio of pilots : planes?
I haven't researched it or anything, but it seems like a high ratio!
Anyone have any comparison or experience in rostering?
If you want to see minimum rostering for a fully utilised narrow body fleet then take a look at WJ. However, in general I would suggest that approximately 12 pilots per narrow body would be the norm. Wide body international is dramatically different due to augment and rest requirements. Not unusual to see 20+ per wide body.
Very interesting.
I guess with sick days, vacation, duty restrictions, etc.. it does make sense.
Thx
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Based on what Westjet is saving by going to 1:50 for FA's, AC could probably save $50M alone by doing the same thing.
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... and maybe we can start cleaning our own airplanes, too. That should save a bundle. And make up our own de-ice policies to increase profits. Hey... thrust idle descents are so cliche. Why don't we start single engine descents, too?

Cutting down executive bonuses and salaries is the first place to start, not compromising the safety of our offices.
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Bede wrote:Based on what Westjet is saving by going to 1:50 for FA's, AC could probably save $50M alone by doing the same thing.
Problem is that AC must staff to service level which includes multi-class seating and long haul. I could see them taking advantage of 1:50 on Rouge flights with single class service.
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I like the single engine descents idea! We can tell our kids that when we
were young we always flew with 2 engines, and they won't believe it!
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Is this why the APU was started prior to start and the sauna of a cabin was maintained until a couple of minutes prior to start? Or is this just standard practice for fuel savings all the time? Must get pretty warm on those wide bodies with such approach if it's true. External air only gets so cold... First world problems right? :rolleyes:
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Bede wrote:Based on what Westjet is saving by going to 1:50 for FA's, AC could probably save $50M alone by doing the same thing.
How are they doing that? Did they get an exemption from TC?
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